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Post by danzack Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:03 am

i am practising piano and i have little problem. Icannot bend completely my little finger (pinky) and when i try to bend pinky, i also move my ring finger....(they are bend together). how i can improve that ? thanks ion advance.

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Post by Admin Andrew Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:03 am

danzack wrote:i am practising piano and i have little problem. Icannot bend completely my little finger (pinky) and when i try to bend pinky, i also move my ring finger....(they are bend together). how i can improve that ? thanks ion advance.

Well actually your 5th finger and 4th finger are connected together so when you try to bend your 5th finger your 4th is always going to come down, there's nothing you can really do about it, and it's completely normal!

To improve the way your hands work, do scales and other exersizes like hanon!

Hope that helps! sunny

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Post by maggiekedves Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:43 am

Admin Andrew wrote:
danzack wrote:i am practising piano and i have little problem. Icannot bend completely my little finger (pinky) and when i try to bend pinky, i also move my ring finger....(they are bend together). how i can improve that ? thanks ion advance.

Well actually your 5th finger and 4th finger are connected together so when you try to bend your 5th finger your 4th is always going to come down, there's nothing you can really do about it, and it's completely normal!

To improve the way your hands work, do scales and other exersizes like hanon!

Hope that helps! sunny

I must have been a mutation... my 5th fingers are moving pretty independently from my 4th Laughing
Being connected... hmmm that is a new knowledge I need to look into that scientifically

I mostly have problems hitting the sharps with my pinky... I usually miss...
I need to improve that somehow...
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Post by Thomandy Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:31 am

The two fingers is conected to the brain with the same nerve. And you must just train to get it more independent. Just the same for an independent use of left and right hand. It takes the brain about 3 months to create the new nervelines, end after that you must stringhten the nerveline. That is the same for the 4th and 5th finger.
I have actually created my own little practice on how to make them more independent(the 4th and 5th) ... Razz
And its working very well Smile
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Post by VictorCS Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:44 pm

This was written by Thomas M. Greiner, Assistant Professor of Anatomy, very interesting.
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Why do the fourth and fifth fingers bend together?

When you flex your fingers (bend them forward to form a fist) or extend
them (straighten them out) the fingers move at three joints. The joint
closest to the hand is the metacarpophalangeal joint, next is the
proximal interphalangeal joint and last is the distal interphalangeal
joint. There are different sets of muscles to control these joints in
different ways. When you extend your fingers you use the extensor
digitorum muscle, which tries to extend the fingers at all three joints
simultaneously. To flex the fingers at only one joint you need to
selectively overpower the extensor digitorum muscle.

General finger flexion is controlled by three groups of muscles – flexor
digitorum superficialis and flexor digitorum profundus and the
lumbricals. Flexor digitorum profundus crosses all three finger joints
and so, when acting alone, will flex all three joints simultaneously.
Flexor digitorum superficialis crosses only the first two joints and so
cannot flex the distal interphalangeal joint. The lumbricals arise from
the tendons of the flexor digitorum profundus muscle but insert onto the
common extensor sheath of the extensor digitorum muscle. When a lumbrical
contracts in isolation it causes the finger to flex at the
metacarpophalangeal joint and extend at the proximal and distal
interphalangeal joints. People have different abilities to control the
independent movement of their fingers – some of these abilities are
learned and some are natural – but they are basically the function of
these three muscles. This interplay of muscle function basically explains
how you can move your middle and ring fingers. Try an experiment. Grasp
the middle of your right forearm tightly between the index finger and
thumb of your left hand. Now wiggle the fingers of your right hand, make
a fist, move each finger independently. When you do this you should be
able to feel both the extensor and flexor muscles acting in your forearm.

The index finger and pinky are special cases. Both fingers have distinct
and independent extensor muscles (extensor indicis and extensor digiti
minimi). The action of these muscles allows you to fully extend your
index finger or pinky while the other fingers are flexed. Notice that you
cannot make a fist and then independently and fully extend your ring or
middle fingers. When you make the rude gesture with the middle finger the
other fingers are not fully flexed, you actually need to use your thumb
to keep the other fingers flexed against the palm.

The flexor digitorum muscles are power muscles, without much independent
control. When you flex your ring finger you are using these flexor
muscles, which to some extend are acting upon all the fingers
simultaneously. Notice carefully, in most people when they flex just the
ring finger they are still producing some movement in the other fingers,
especially the middle finger. The pinky won’t move much, if at all,
because it has the extensor digiti minimi muscle to keep it extended. The
middle finger doesn’t move much because it is a longer finger and
the “slack” that forms in the extensor digitorum tendon by flexing one of
the other fingers will not affect it as much. However, when you flex the
pinky at the proximal interphalangeal joint you need to overcome the
power of extensor digitorum to keep the other joints extended. Because
the ring finger does not have an independent extensor muscle it must flex
along with the pinky.

There are some people that do have independent extensor muscles for the
middle and ring fingers. Having one for the middle finger is fairly
common – about 1 in 20 people. Having an independent ring finger extensor
is less common. However, if you can find someone who can keep their ring
finger straight while they flex their pinky you will have found one of
those people with the independent ring finger extensor muscle.
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Post by Thomandy Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:48 pm

Nice Victor Smile
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Post by maggiekedves Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:18 am

Thanks guys for the very informative posts cheers
I loved the article Jordans Smile
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Post by Admin Andrew Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:10 am

nice info:)

definitely more informative than what I said!

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