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Post by Thomandy Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:52 am

How can we practice acusarity at higher speed?

Would: Flight Of the BumbleBee be a good song to use as practice. of course the grade on that song is high because of the speed, but I guess if one can manage to play that very rapidly after a couple of years, the speed and acusarity will automaticly be improved as well??!

Thoughts and suggestions? bounce
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Post by Phobik2000 Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:10 am

Anything requiring "a couple of years" should be embraced with moderate enthusiasm imho affraid
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Post by Admin Andrew Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:31 am

My suggestion for increaseing accuracy at high speed is...

You've got to practise SLOW...and take thought about what keys your hitting. Do this over and over at a slow speed, and don't try goign faster until you KNOW you'll be able to get it off clean.

Also another trick is to start your section at a slow speed with the metronome, then when you're able to play it at that speed, bump it up a notch or two...then play it again at the new speed, and if you can paly it perfectly twice in a row at the new speed bump it up again until you're at the desired speed

Also there's another trick called "slow/fast, fast/slow" This is when you take your notes and you hold the first now SLOW, then quickly pass the 2nd note and hold the 3rd note, creating sort of a dotted rhythmic sound. I think i covered this in one of my lessons, somewhere between lesson 24-28 i believe, but i can't exactly remember scratch

anyway ^_^ i hope that info helps!
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Post by Thomandy Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:43 am

Okay. I have actally practiced that whay on a song im doing. Its called: King Hyrule farwell - Zeldasong. Started the metronome at 75, and in a week im no on 90. 1/16notes at 90 with 3 and 4 fingers in action with the right hand, and run with the left. But Then I am glad I practiced that the correct way, couse suddenly I could just do it Razz

And I have seen that lesson you mentioned. I have been doing that on fur elise aswell, but didnt know it helped speed Smile Cool Smile

That info helps alot. I will be using the metronome more now. But Its still a bit tricky. Still it messes up more for me than I can feel it helps. But, practice as everything else Wink

This is the reason I wondered:
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Post by Admin Andrew Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:30 pm

Well, I'm glad that info helps!

Ahh so you want to play flight of the bumble bee hey? that would be best to be learned with "slow/fast, fast/slow" practise, and of course metronome
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Post by Thomandy Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:42 pm

Admin Andrew wrote:Well, I'm glad that info helps!

Ahh so you want to play flight of the bumble bee hey? that would be best to be learned with "slow/fast, fast/slow" practise, and of course metronome

It would be cool to play it. But Im not going to try right away. Since Im practicing to complete 100% on Fur Elise, Victors Piano Solo, Farwell King Hyrule and My Own Composition =) Created it this weekend, so I guess I will practice it and upload Smile
But the exersize(Dont know how that word is written Razz) is noted Smile
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Post by VictorCS Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:02 pm

1 year ago I usually tried to play at full speed at once, but that's not doing any good,
better learn the piece slowly, and then increase with a metronome.

Have never tried the slow/fast, but it's prolly working since people use it.
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Post by Admin Andrew Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:56 am

VictorCS wrote:1 year ago I usually tried to play at full speed at once, but that's not doing any good,
better learn the piece slowly, and then increase with a metronome.

Have never tried the slow/fast, but it's prolly working since people use it.

Yea it works quite well, if you have a little patience and discipline you should be able to get it learned! study cheers
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Post by lisakokey Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:39 am

HELLO...

I read one of the posts about slow/fast and fast/slow method for playing faster and Andrew stated its was explained in lesson 24-28 and I didn't see it..I went through all his lessons.

Can someone explain what this method is all about?

Thanks
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Post by pianohama Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:42 am

problem with flight of the bumblebee is that you wont practice long jump at high speeds, just chromaticness. so..
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Post by Thomandy Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:36 pm

pianohama wrote:problem with flight of the bumblebee is that you wont practice long jump at high speeds, just chromaticness. so..

Yeah, that true. But still, that is a start. Im not learning it now. But someday I think... =)
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Post by CripKilla Fri May 02, 2008 11:11 pm

Is bumblebee easy to learn?Right now im spending above 3 hours+ per day of piano... How long does its gonna take?
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Post by Thomandy Fri May 02, 2008 11:23 pm

CripKilla wrote:Is bumblebee easy to learn?Right now im spending above 3 hours+ per day of piano... How long does its gonna take?

There are different versons, but I think its easy to learn, but harder to play at the correct tempo.
Hmm.. But I guess it also depends on how long tou have played of course and how tallented you are =)
So just start Is my recomandation, then you will find out how long time you use to get it right.
Im gonna learn it to, but dont know when.. Razz
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Post by CripKilla Mon May 05, 2008 9:21 pm

It is not that easy i think: look at the ORIGINAL version

http://maksimmrvica.com/downloads/scores/
look at the rachminov version(the original) it is hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6A-JYbu1Os
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Post by Thomandy Mon May 05, 2008 11:21 pm

CripKilla wrote:It is not that easy i think: look at the ORIGINAL version

http://maksimmrvica.com/downloads/scores/
look at the rachminov version(the original) it is hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6A-JYbu1Os
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With alot of practice you can make it look easy to Wink There is a easyer verson, try that one. If that isnt hard enough, you can just change you mind right?? Smile And then go for the hard one. I plan to learn the easy one, but now Im working on maksims Exodus. And it got som speedy challanges, soo Smile
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Post by CripKilla Wed May 07, 2008 9:40 pm

thomandy wrote:
CripKilla wrote:It is not that easy i think: look at the ORIGINAL version

http://maksimmrvica.com/downloads/scores/
look at the rachminov version(the original) it is hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6A-JYbu1Os
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With alot of practice you can make it look easy to Wink There is a easyer verson, try that one. If that isnt hard enough, you can just change you mind right?? Smile And then go for the hard one. I plan to learn the easy one, but now Im working on maksims Exodus. And it got som speedy challanges, soo Smile

ok Smile
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Post by Thomandy Wed May 07, 2008 10:53 pm

CripKilla wrote:

ok Smile

So are you going for it? I got the sheets for the easy verson if you like to have it?? =)
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Post by CripKilla Sat May 10, 2008 6:15 pm

Ok sure plz send it to me ^^
The hard version was a little bit too much ^^
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Post by Thomandy Sat May 10, 2008 6:31 pm

CripKilla wrote:Ok sure plz send it to me ^^
The hard version was a little bit too much ^^

Yup, Ill do it right away Smile The hard verson is on a consertpianistlevel I think... At least it is rated 9/9 on difficulty on a sheetmusicsource I found... The easy one also look hard, so it probably is a great challange aswell. But hope you can do it Smile
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Post by CripKilla Mon May 19, 2008 2:04 am

I tried to play FOTBB easy version but it still really hard!I started it and I need trick to hit the keys faster when you are going down the keyboard! Does the 1-2 fingers trick is correct?(Thumb and second finger all way)
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Post by Thomandy Mon May 19, 2008 4:11 am

Well, I dont know what is best on that song. But I know what is best for the chromatic scale (c - c# - d -d# -e -f - f# g- g#- a-a# b-c)
Is 1-3-1-3-1-3-1-3-1-3-1-3 and the second (2) only when two white keys tuch. Like b/c.. But use the fastslow training and change (fast/slow) vs (slow/fast). It helped me alot AND fast on fur elise.

Andrew got lessons about both chromatic scale and fast/slow training if you want to look them up.

Its a bit hard, but you can study this vid and fuigure it out?!
You can se that she uses the 3,2 and 1 alot.
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Post by CripKilla Mon May 19, 2008 2:24 pm

Thanks for the answer! I will try the slow/fast! But what is the lessons about chromatic scales?
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Post by Shouji Sat May 24, 2008 4:35 am

A lot of teachers I hear say that Hanon's 60 exercises are the absolute best for developing speed and strength.
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Post by Thomandy Sat May 24, 2008 5:43 am

Shouji wrote:A lot of teachers I hear say that Hanon's 60 exercises are the absolute best for developing speed and strength.

Look into Andrews last lesson Wink
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