Nocturne in E-flat Major

Couple things i'm wondering...

1) On bar 2 on the left hand where it shows the first flat sign on the triad C D A, would that flat on C be B, or B flat, because all b's in the piece are flat.

2) On bar 3, right hand, I have no idea what that symbol is! It kinda looks like ~, with a flat sign on top and says 4321.

Thank you! For some reason this piece seems really easy but is soooo difficult! I hate being a slow learner >_<

Shouji wrote:Couple things i'm wondering...

1) On bar 2 on the left hand where it shows the first flat sign on the triad C D A, would that flat on C be B, or B flat, because all b's in the piece are flat.

2) On bar 3, right hand, I have no idea what that symbol is! It kinda looks like ~, with a flat sign on top and says 4321.

Thank you! For some reason this piece seems really easy but is soooo difficult! I hate being a slow learner >_<

It would help to write the Name and composer but I think you are talking about Chopins Noctrne op 9 no 2???
Well, I started that aswell, but Im waiting a bit longer. Its a grade 7 piece. are you up for it??

Well, just try to listen(1) does it sound right? I think the c is a b. But now I cant remember how the sheets look like, but yeah. If its a Cb its a b.

Check out Andrews lesson(2) on thrills ++ He use that piece as an example! And covers your second question aswell

Thanks Thomas

Admin Andrew wrote:Thanks Thomas

Glad to be of assistance

Thank you Thomas!!!!

Shouji wrote:Thank you Thomas!!!!

I ran into another problem, on bar 32, on the treble clef, there seems to be 4 added flat signs.

Sorry for the blurry picture, my camera sucks

What on earth does this mean?

BTW this song is coming along really well, I have the first page pretty well nailed down, definitely not as hard as Arabesque.

I got a better pic from My PianoBook! =)


It is a dobbelflat. It means that you should lower the note two semitones. So in this case this note is a A!!

Hbb = A

Why dont they just write an A instead of a Bflatflat?

Hmm, but B is already written as a flat in the time signature area, so wouldn't it be triple flat?

VictorCS wrote:Why dont they just write an A instead of a Bflatflat?

It got somthing to do with the pattern and building of the piece!!
I ask the same as you, it just stupid. But it surves a meaning!

Shouji wrote:Hmm, but B is already written as a flat in the time signature area, so wouldn't it be triple flat?

Well, considering that.. That is true I guess. Tripple flat then. Then it is a: Ab/G#

So confusing T_T

But thanks again Thomas!

Shouji wrote:So confusing T_T

But thanks again Thomas!

Yup Its a bit confusing sometimes, I cant garantee you that I am right, but I think so. It is logical. So Im basing the logicality on the theory... You can record that bar, and send it to me, and I can compare to the original and listen if it is correct. Or you mught be able to hear it yourselfe. That is the true answer right there

It's always wise to listen to the original piece, so you have some clue about how it sounds.

I'm terrible at differentiating notes by ear. >_<

Shouji wrote:I'm terrible at differentiating notes by ear. >_<

Then this might be a great way to practice a littlebit on that hehe

Argh I hate when I get fingering wrong. This whole time i've been practicing the treble clef parts with 5 1 when its supposed to be 5 2

So I asked on Yahoo answers, and I got this response.

No -- accidentals are not cumulative. Simply play a B double flat (enharmonically an A)

Enjoy

Coo.

Shouji wrote:So I asked on Yahoo answers, and I got this response.

No -- accidentals are not cumulative. Simply play a B double flat (enharmonically an A)

Enjoy

Coo.

So as I wrote first then?

Shouji wrote:So I asked on Yahoo answers, and I got this response.

No -- accidentals are not cumulative. Simply play a B double flat (enharmonically an A)

Enjoy

Coo.

I'm lost.