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Note confusion
Hi, not entirely sure if this is the right area of the forum but I have a query about the piece I am learning.
I can only really explain by showing the part I am stuck at (which Ive had to copy out seperately because you can't photocopy music;) )
This is the link (i hope it works). It shows the piece
https://i.servimg.com/u/f89/14/39/13/83/piece_10.jpg
Anyway, notice there is a B that I have to hold for a crotchet in my right hand, while i have to play the B again simultaneously with my left for a semiquaver while still holding it with my right. I have checked the key sig. etc so Im not just maing a mistake with accidentals and the likes.
Maybe the answers obvious and Im going to look a bit silly here but how do i approach this? Surely I must have to leave the left hand B.
Oh, the piece is called 'sonata in d minor' by cimarosa if anyone happens to know it and has had to decide what to do here themselves.
I can only really explain by showing the part I am stuck at (which Ive had to copy out seperately because you can't photocopy music;) )
This is the link (i hope it works). It shows the piece
https://i.servimg.com/u/f89/14/39/13/83/piece_10.jpg
Anyway, notice there is a B that I have to hold for a crotchet in my right hand, while i have to play the B again simultaneously with my left for a semiquaver while still holding it with my right. I have checked the key sig. etc so Im not just maing a mistake with accidentals and the likes.
Maybe the answers obvious and Im going to look a bit silly here but how do i approach this? Surely I must have to leave the left hand B.
Oh, the piece is called 'sonata in d minor' by cimarosa if anyone happens to know it and has had to decide what to do here themselves.
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Re: Note confusion
Without having the score to look at (clefs, key sigs etc), can't be said for sure.
With what you show here, there's a Bb in treble clef and a B in bass clef, though...
but again, can't be decided with important information missing.
With what you show here, there's a Bb in treble clef and a B in bass clef, though...
but again, can't be decided with important information missing.
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Re: Note confusion
can you give us more info on the specific sonata so we might search for it? (for example, is it sonata no. 79, 17, 9, etc...? )
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Re: Note confusion
Alright, sorry, its 'No. 25' from Raccolta di varie sonate, Book 2 by Cimarosa and is called 'Sonata in D minor'. It will probably help to tell you that its A:1 in the grade 8 ABRSM syllabus for 2009-10, and there are many versions on youtube of people playing but i still can't work out what to do with the note.
I could rewrite the whole line out but im not sure if im allowed to do that.
Anyway, while Im here, does anyone know why Cimarosa is meant to be played detatched and staccato because he was Baroque Composer, when he was born in 1750? (the end of the Baroque unless I am wrong)
Thanks.
I could rewrite the whole line out but im not sure if im allowed to do that.
Anyway, while Im here, does anyone know why Cimarosa is meant to be played detatched and staccato because he was Baroque Composer, when he was born in 1750? (the end of the Baroque unless I am wrong)
Thanks.
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Re: Note confusion
tefnut wrote:Anyway, while Im here, does anyone know why Cimarosa is meant to be played detatched and staccato because he was Baroque Composer, when he was born in 1750? (the end of the Baroque unless I am wrong)
Maybe he subscribed to the life motto, "If it's not baroque, don't fix it."
(groans welcome)
But really, I'm a beginner, and I've never heard of the guy. But, this is a neat opportunity to read up on him. Never hurts to learn a bit!
I'll keep looking to see what I can find on your question. But as of right now, though, I have no idea. It does look pretty wacky.
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Re: Note confusion
You need to show the sheet music to someone, to ask their opinion...
In the example given there is no B in right hand as I said earlier but since you didn't answer I assume the drawing is wrong, or something?
In the example given there is no B in right hand as I said earlier but since you didn't answer I assume the drawing is wrong, or something?
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Re: Note confusion
Ah, I see. It looks like in the drawing that there are two different key signatures. Are they both supposed to be F major?
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Re: Note confusion
maybe it's same clef, who knows
Question: If you would happen to find some high resolution pictures with the score on some image hosting site and you link it here for the question, that wouldn't be illegal isn't it? After all it's just a random score from some public site... quite a lot of these classical music scores are even public domain...
Question: If you would happen to find some high resolution pictures with the score on some image hosting site and you link it here for the question, that wouldn't be illegal isn't it? After all it's just a random score from some public site... quite a lot of these classical music scores are even public domain...
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Re: Note confusion
I doubt you'll get fbi on the door if you post a copy of the part you dont understand. We're not talking about games/movies here, neither a copy of the whole work.
And it's not like we're gonna sell the image and earn money either
And it's not like we're gonna sell the image and earn money either
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Re: Note confusion
Ok lol Ill post it - sorry Im not being too helpful but i don't wanna be banned etc.
Right heres the one system only (ignore my scribblings) . The second crotchet of bar 2 has a B for the RH and then a B for the LH (both flat unless im missing something really obvious.)
Do I just leave the Lh one? It even has the fingering for it and its strange why they should out it there if you don't play it, unless its for when you want to play the LH individually - two seperate 'polyphonic' lines i guess. But its still confusing me.
(Oh btw thanks 'circle of fists' for looking up cimarosa - all i can find about himwas that he was a v famous italian opera composer in his time.)
Right heres the one system only (ignore my scribblings) . The second crotchet of bar 2 has a B for the RH and then a B for the LH (both flat unless im missing something really obvious.)
Do I just leave the Lh one? It even has the fingering for it and its strange why they should out it there if you don't play it, unless its for when you want to play the LH individually - two seperate 'polyphonic' lines i guess. But its still confusing me.
(Oh btw thanks 'circle of fists' for looking up cimarosa - all i can find about himwas that he was a v famous italian opera composer in his time.)
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Re: Note confusion
Curious about the answer myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimarosa
Easy when you got a 1 letter keyword search set up for wiki in your browser...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimarosa
Easy when you got a 1 letter keyword search set up for wiki in your browser...
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Re: Note confusion
I have looked on the google links including wiki - i mean i don't know about him being a in a baroque style even though he was born 1750
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Re: Note confusion
One would have to think the line between Baroque and Classical is a fairly fuzzy one. Having been born just at the official end of Baroque, I would think his style would be heavily influenced by it.
And as far as the note confusion, I'm still baffled and would like to see the answer for this. Anyone? ? ?
And as far as the note confusion, I'm still baffled and would like to see the answer for this. Anyone? ? ?
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