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Post by Pianokid220 Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:27 pm

My grandmother thinks that public schools don't teacher things the right way,so now next year I will start
I don't know if it is a good thing or a bad thing.
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Post by VictorCS Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:23 pm

I dont believe home schooling is better than the ordinary, no friends, no teamwork, no social network and fun. You miss out alot, experience you can never get. Ofcourse, some learn faster than others and some slower, but in my opinion they have the grades in a way that both can get through. And they help those who dont learn as fast as the others.

Only drawback about public school is shootings, but I cant really see that as a problem because if you calculate the risk, the risk is very very very very very small.

About public schools doesnt teach the right way, in some cases a teacher shouldnt be teaching. But that has nothing to do with how the school is set up. The system is good, but would be better if every teacher teach in an easy way like Andrew ^_^

What about your mom and dad, do they share your grandmothers view?
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Post by goodell Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:54 pm

VictorCS wrote:I dont believe home schooling is better than the ordinary, no friends, no teamwork, no social network and fun. You miss out alot, experience you can never get. Ofcourse, some learn faster than others and some slower, but in my opinion they have the grades in a way that both can get through. And they help those who dont learn as fast as the others.

Only drawback about public school is shootings, but I cant really see that as a problem because if you calculate the risk, the risk is very very very very very small.

About public schools doesnt teach the right way, in some cases a teacher shouldnt be teaching. But that has nothing to do with how the school is set up. The system is good, but would be better if every teacher teach in an easy way like Andrew ^_^

What about your mom and dad, do they share your grandmothers view?

I don't know that it's quite as bad as you make it sound. I've had a few friends who were homeschooled, and they sometimes wished they were at regular school, but as long as you go out and do things (soccer, basketball, other sports or activities around town?) you can meet plenty of people. Also there's usually somewhat of a network of homeschooled kids in the area who get together for social things.

Whether or not you get a better education? That's totally dependent on the people involved. If you go to public school, unless you're in a really crappy area, you'll get the bulk of the education you're supposed to, and you may have a couple bad teachers, and probably a couple great ones. With homeschooling, if your teacher doesn't really know how something works, you're both kind of screwed (unless you have that homeschooling network for questions). The advantage of course is that you get extremely personalized lessons and help, which unfortunately doesn't do a whole lot to prepare you for college and the real world, where everything is about efficiency.

Basically, it's a choice you and your grandma both need to make, maybe it's right for you, maybe not. It's by no means a terrible thing to do, but you might want to point out to her that public school is only partially about the knowledge, it's largely about learning to interact with people, which is a VERY valuable skill to have in the job market. If you do choose to go through with it, it's not really that bad, I know plenty of people who have survived it and are doing just fine now.
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Post by VictorCS Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:51 pm

I might have made it sound worse than it is Razz

I still think public is the best way to go tho.
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Post by Admin Andrew Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:04 pm

I don't know if you guys know this or not, but actually I was home schooled my whole life. I agree there are less opportunities to meet friends and socialize so it can be more lonely.

I guess one thing I noticed is that being homeschooled gave me less of a shock when I was done and I went into the real world to work. I was already used to being by myself and having to figure out my own problems most of the time without a teacher. You need a ton of self motivation to learn in homeschooling as well. I found it pretty tough at times but one thing I think I really got from it was, I didn't follow the crowd and was able to become who I wanted to be. Later on with my first job I was a public skating supervisor. So that's where I developed a lot of social skills because I had to help and manage and sometimes ban people in the sometimes 300-400 people skating on the ice. ^_^

Anyway, All in all, i'm happy that i was homeschooled mainly because I like who i am, and I'm happy with how I turned out even if it was hard.
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Post by Pianokid220 Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:38 pm

YOU WHERE HOME SCHOOLED
^_^WOW
iDIDN'T KNOW
It seemed like you where all popular in your school ( I thought)
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Post by Admin Andrew Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:32 pm

Nope, wasn't popular at all actually. ^_^
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Post by Marnex Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:58 pm

I'm homeschooled and I agree with Andrew. It's pretty lonely and I kinda wish I was in public school sometimes. I have no friends except the ones from church and I can't have a gf untill I grow up and go to college. Although I have heard bad stuff from public school. My friends from church told me that their friends have been shot, have done drugs, and many other things. They even told me that there friends have gotten pregnant at 15! There is also the problem of your religion and racism.
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Post by Thomandy Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:24 pm

In Norway there is a very different culture about these things!
I could never ever seen myself home schooled. The school(s) I have been attending through the years have created SO many great moments, experiences ect... All those childhood memories! We used to play soccer in every free-quarters and we used to do the same after school, in weekends ect - And I had lots of friends from my class that I hang out with after school and in holidays, playing video games, going to the beach ect ect... If I had been home schooled I had missed out EXTREMELY on all those things unless I was Very lucky and managed to lure myself into a social network via other things... But still Im pretty sure I wouldnt have managed to get the same life experience!

Homeschooling in my opinion might give you a slightly better education!
And probably the differences might be bigger in USA and Canada ect, cause the public schools in Norway is pretty good, even though we also got lots of bad teachers here and there, bad influences amongst friends and so one but still...

But there is one thing that is SO important about going to school, and that is the education you need before entering LIFE!
And then im not talking about the things you learn in class or from the teacher, but what you learn from socializing, how to handle different situations in class, out of class, on the way home, ect.

And as Andrew say, he was lucky to get some of that experience from being a public skating supervisor. Usually people dont get this experience! Im no expert on this, and as I say, I can only relate to the Norwegian Culture and situations. But I think public schooling overall is a better solution.

Like you say Marnex - Pregnancy at 15, shooting ect
These are things that might happen. But this can happen when you are grown up as well, and all these kind of shocks appear later in life if you never see them while growing up. How do you then relate to it?? What if your kid gets pregnant at 15 in 30 years from now? How would you react?? Is it the worst thing that could happen?? ... well, you dont know, cause you havnt experienced things like this?! And that might be a harder experience than knowing a friends or someone in your school getting pregnant!

I feel one are less educated for lots of lifes tricks and things by not being around when "vaccinations" accour! By vaccinations I mean that when you are put in a situations where you have to see things ect you get familiar with things, and are better equipped when they happen later on!

But nothing is black and white... For some homeschooling might be the best solution, but I would NEVER keep my kid away from public school here in Norway.... Who knows, I might have done the opposite if I grew up in USA... We'll never know Smile


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Post by MLundegaard Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:53 pm

I agree entirely with Thomandy.

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Post by Marnex Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:28 am

That's true thomandy. I am NOT going to deprive my kids from friends, socializing, and learning to handle situations on their own. My parents are doing this for my own good, but I get really mad/sad sometimes T.T
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Post by Karla Marx Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:24 pm

As others have said, school isn't about what you learn in the classroom it's about learning strategies to deal with life. Making friends, dealing with people you don't like, keeping da higher powers sweet, team work and doing alot of stuff you don't want etc. It really is training for grown up life, for now I have to work with people I don't like, keep my boss sweet, and be somewhere I don't want to be every day (lol ok maybe I don't like my job much).

It's funny because I hated school and it was my dream to be homeschooled. But the grown up world isn't so different so I'm glad I got used to it then rather than avoiding it!

Like I wouldn't say I've been brainwashed into being a cog in society, far from it. But I've learnt to work the system so I'm still free to be who I am.

And this whole omg teenage pregnancy/drugs thing...so what? As Thomandy said you'll come across many shocking things in life, best to learn to deal with it.

And shootings........well lets face it you're more likely to be hit by a car, are you going to stop crossing roads?

Can't stay packed in cotton wool all your life (unless you're (un)lucky?), might as well be thrown in the deep end!
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Post by Thomandy Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:46 pm

Karla Marx wrote:...
And shootings........well lets face it you're more likely to be hit by a car, are you going to stop crossing roads?

Can't stay packed in cotton wool all your life (unless you're (un)lucky?), might as well be thrown in the deep end!

Well said... And well said Smile
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Post by VictorCS Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:49 pm

If you like your work it will be ok to work with it, but you cant expect everyday to be fun right, it's not like I always wanna play the piano, or exercise, but I do it because I need and in the end want it.

If you really dislike your job, I suggest you should work on finding another one ^_^

Andrew wrote: "I guess one thing I noticed is that being homeschooled gave me less of a shock when I was done and I went into the real world to work. I was already used to being by myself and having to figure out my own problems most of the time without a teacher."

Sometimes the work isnt about teamworking, sometimes you need to do stuff yourself depending on what you work with. In the end it's you that sign up for a massive teamwork or a thinking one man job. But in the end you'll have to deal with people, bad or good, school is perfect for that.
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Post by Karla Marx Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:54 pm

VictorCS wrote:
If you really dislike your job, I suggest you should work on finding another one ^_^

Easier said than done! And something's got to pay the rent in the mean time! Wink
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Post by Marnex Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:50 pm

It's not about real life, it's about teen violence. Ok you see that in life and school, but tell me what has a higher chance? And please don't tell me It's the same for a teen getting pregnant and a grown woman getting pregnant in real life. I mean the world(a lower chance for someone to offer you drugs since the world is so um.....BIG) compared to a school(where kids go to you personally to give you drugs where it's so um.....smalller!) Besides when everything is good you'll see teamwork, but something goes wrong, you'll see who your real friends are... I agree it can and probably will happen anywhere, but the chances are higher in school.
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Post by VictorCS Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:16 pm

You dont get into drugs if you dont want to, if you do you're weak. Sounds kinda hard, but it is the truth. They did a research, and gave a couple of gorillas the choice of either a banana or a drug ( dont remember what ), and the higher ranking gorillas picked the banana, while the lower ones picked the drug.

As a human you have a much better capacity, and you know it's bad for you, so you would never do drugs if you really dont want. You can stay away from alcohol, smoking and drugs easily if you're not depressed etc.

About the pregnancy, most teens nowadays know that they can have a child if they dont use protection, and protection isnt always 100%, so either stay away from sexual stuff or use a condom if you can take the risk 1/100 ( the pill is almost a 100% safe ). How to make a baby is common knowlegde, it's not rocket science.

Pick your friends with carefulness, and you'll see it'll turn out better than ok, and people who doubt how public school is should watch 7th Heaven, a great and pretty much "true" show.
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Post by Marnex Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:05 am

All you said is right, but everyone is weak... And saying keeping away from sex is harder done than said(hormones skyrocket at 12+ teen). Besides, choosing good friends is pretty hard(even in church). Anyways the gorilla thing was funny, but was not a good way to compare humans. They were not consious of what they were(they didn't know drugs are bad, same would have happened with a pack of sugar Razz)doing unlike us, humans.
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Post by LizaTRENCHCOAT Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:17 pm

I'm homeschooled, it's awesome.
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Post by Thomandy Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:44 pm

Marnex wrote:... And saying keeping away from sex is harder done than said...

Well... Why stay away from sex? hehe
If you feel ready to have sex, and then you are probably grown enough to know how to choose a partner that is right for you to go through a "big" thing like that with. And then if you Use a condom I dont think its hurting you to have sex! Its better to promote safe sex than no sex!! Razz Cause as you say, and as the trend and studies show in the area, teens do have sex - So then its better to do it in a safe fashion!!
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Post by VictorCS Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:43 pm

And be sure to not listen to what the Pope says, he said some epic things about condom use. That was more about the AIDS problem, but still lol!
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Post by Thomandy Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:14 pm

VictorCS wrote:And be sure to not listen to what the Pope says, he said some epic things about condom use. That was more about the AIDS problem, but still lol!

Yeah - The Pope is a ****
I cant believe how ignorant one can get!!
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Post by Marnex Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:40 am

Thomandy wrote:
Marnex wrote:... And saying keeping away from sex is harder done than said...

Well... Why stay away from sex? hehe
If you feel ready to have sex, and then you are probably grown enough to know how to choose a partner that is right for you to go through a "big" thing like that with. And then if you Use a condom I dont think its hurting you to have sex! Its better to promote safe sex than no sex!! Razz Cause as you say, and as the trend and studies show in the area, teens do have sex - So then its better to do it in a safe fashion!!


Can't argue with that lol. And yeah I don't beleive in the pope.
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Post by goodell Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:25 am

Marnex wrote:
Thomandy wrote:
Marnex wrote:... And saying keeping away from sex is harder done than said...

Well... Why stay away from sex? hehe
If you feel ready to have sex, and then you are probably grown enough to know how to choose a partner that is right for you to go through a "big" thing like that with. And then if you Use a condom I dont think its hurting you to have sex! Its better to promote safe sex than no sex!! Razz Cause as you say, and as the trend and studies show in the area, teens do have sex - So then its better to do it in a safe fashion!!


Can't argue with that lol. And yeah I don't beleive in the pope.

You don't believe in the pope? Do you think he's a hologram or what? Razz
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Post by Thomandy Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:57 am

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Thomandy wrote:
Marnex wrote:... And saying keeping away from sex is harder done than said...

Well... Why stay away from sex? hehe
If you feel ready to have sex, and then you are probably grown enough to know how to choose a partner that is right for you to go through a "big" thing like that with. And then if you Use a condom I dont think its hurting you to have sex! Its better to promote safe sex than no sex!! Razz Cause as you say, and as the trend and studies show in the area, teens do have sex - So then its better to do it in a safe fashion!!


Can't argue with that lol. And yeah I don't beleive in the pope.

You don't believe in the pope? Do you think he's a hologram or what? Razz

Hehe Very Happy
Well, I believe in him - But not in what he stands for and I always thought they had a rule about: "the popes should be carriers of common sense" or something Razz So, now I dont only; not believe his religious msg - But I dont even believe him to be a reliable person in general Razz
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