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Post by SinkingHigher on Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:37 pm

Hi all. It's been a while.

Now that I have time and school's over, I feel the need to catch up on all the things I've missed over the last 12 years or so.

I'm not particularly concerned with learning the songs for now, so skill level is a non-issue (though I hope to at some point) but I'm just wondering if you guys could recommend some artists to me. I'm one of those people that seems to believe pianos play best when pianos are sad. So far I've come across Beethoven's "Piano Sonata No. 14 in C Sharp Minor ("Moonlight"): Adagio Sostenuto" and can't get enough of it.

So, any recommendations? I've heard good things about Debussy and Chopin.

Thanks.

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Post by klixonnylle on Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:46 pm

Sad songs are very well good. I think its because sad songs needs more emotions than other. You could try Chopin's etude10 no3 "tristesse". try this interpretation of Valentina
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Post by Thomandy on Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:09 pm

That Etude is one of my absolute favorites Smile
And she plays it Great Smile
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Post by klixonnylle on Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:21 pm

Thomandy wrote:That Etude is one of my absolute favorites Smile
And she plays it Great Smile

Wow. its my favorite too. I planned to learn it but i think that it will sound bad if its played in the keyboard so i postponed it hahaha. i think its a great piece to learn. valentina's interpretation is very great full of emotion it melts your heart. bye the way can you play it thomas??
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Post by Lanxil on Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:23 pm

Chopin Nocturne no.20 posth. ^^
Sry fan of "The Pianist"(film) here xD
At least for me it is a great piece (I think I am gonna try to learn it as the first piece when I get a piano ^^)
^^
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Post by SinkingHigher on Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:30 pm

Seems I had already learned that song without ever knowing it's name or the artist, klixonnylle. Just the melody, though. It seems really... dramatic. I don't know... I don't think it's for me. Beautiful song nonetheless. I just don't get that kind of hopeless emptiness emotion out of songs with faster tempos for the most part.

I was hoping to watch the Pianist last night with some friends. Ended up being American Psycho >:

Oh well, hahaha. Some other time.

Chopin's Nocturne no.20 is stunning. I think I can learn this. Hopefully. Still need to get some dexterity and rhythm into my left hand.

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Post by CripKilla on Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:02 pm

About op.10 no.3 , chopin himself said:In all my life I have never again been able to find such a beautiful melody.
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Post by frank on Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:47 am

Lanxil wrote:Chopin Nocturne no.20 posth. ^^
Sry fan of "The Pianist"(film) here xD
At least for me it is a great piece (I think I am gonna try to learn it as the first piece when I get a piano ^^)
^^

Trying this as your first piece could be a little bit frustrating for you, if you don't have already some experience playing piano, because it is not that easy as it might look like (at least for someone who has not played piano before). Try starting with the Grade 1 pieces from this list:

https://afpa.hooxs.com/songs-f5/my-song-s-list-an-outline-of-suggestion-of-pieces-from-beginner-to-the-highest-grade-t970.htm

After this you'll know how difficult Chopin will be and you can decide if you want to try it Smile

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Post by Thomandy on Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:21 am

klixonnylle wrote:
Thomandy wrote:That Etude is one of my absolute favorites Smile
And she plays it Great Smile

Wow. its my favorite too. I planned to learn it but i think that it will sound bad if its played in the keyboard so i postponed it hahaha. i think its a great piece to learn. valentina's interpretation is very great full of emotion it melts your heart. bye the way can you play it thomas??

Its a hard piece Smile The simple melody fools one to think its technically easy Smile
The middle section is crazy as well Smile

Nope, I cant play it Smile I want to learn all Chopins etudes one day though, so then I will be able to play it Smile
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Post by klixonnylle on Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:42 pm

yes you're true Thomas. Im also a fool who thinks that its a easy one in first Very Happy .
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Post by Thomandy on Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:40 pm

klixonnylle wrote:yes you're true Thomas. Im also a fool who thinks that its a easy one in first Very Happy .

Hehe Smile Well, the hard thing in the main section is giving the different voices their own life Smile You are voicing And accompanying with your Right hand while giving bass with the left as well, but Im not really sure how hard it is though, but its not to easy at least, but still its not the hardest etude! Smile
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Post by klixonnylle on Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:57 am

[quote="Thomand]
Hehe Smile Well, the hard thing in the main section is giving the different voices their own life Smile You are voicing And accompanying with your Right hand while giving bass with the left as well, but Im not really sure how hard it is though, but its not to easy at least, but still its not the hardest etude! Smile[/quote]

yes but its very very beautiful if you can played it correctly even the main theme only Razz . it also has many dynamics changing from forte to piano. i think one of the hardest etude is the "black keys". its very hard cause you should press the black keys fast.for you which is better ballades or nocturns ?
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Post by Thomandy on Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:48 pm

klixonnylle wrote:[quote="Thomandy]
Hehe Smile Well, the hard thing in the main section is giving the different voices their own life Smile You are voicing And accompanying with your Right hand while giving bass with the left as well, but Im not really sure how hard it is though, but its not to easy at least, but still its not the hardest etude! Smile

yes but its very very beautiful if you can played it correctly even the main theme only Razz . it also has many dynamics changing from forte to piano. i think one of the hardest etude is the "black keys". its very hard cause you should press the black keys fast.for you which is better ballades or nocturns ?[/quote]

Well, its a nice melody, but a melody isnt that good without the harmony. Because the harmony is making the melody beautiful! Smile Well I Dont have a favorite genre amongst those two, its all about the individual piece! I like Ballades and Nocturnes very much!^^
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Post by CripKilla on Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:23 pm

klixonnylle wrote:Sad songs are very well good. I think its because sad songs needs more emotions than other. You could try Chopin's etude10 no3 "tristesse". try this interpretation of Valentina

By the way, I hope he won't try it. It's really hard. It requires an incredible technique(B part). The A part isn't that hard, but what's the point if he can't finish it?
Also it's not called tristesse. It's people who published the piece who subtitled it tristesse(sadness in english). Beethoven moonlight sonata is also a good example. Beethoven never entended to name it moonlight.
Anyway, who cares...
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Post by klixonnylle on Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:20 am

Thomandy wrote:
klixonnylle wrote:[quote="Thomandy]
Hehe Smile Well, the hard thing in the main section is giving the different voices their own life Smile You are voicing And accompanying with your Right hand while giving bass with the left as well, but Im not really sure how hard it is though, but its not to easy at least, but still its not the hardest etude! Smile

yes but its very very beautiful if you can played it correctly even the main theme only Razz . it also has many dynamics changing from forte to piano. i think one of the hardest etude is the "black keys". its very hard cause you should press the black keys fast.for you which is better ballades or nocturns ?

Well, its a nice melody, but a melody isnt that good without the harmony. Because the harmony is making the melody beautiful! Smile Well I Dont have a favorite genre amongst those two, its all about the individual piece! I like Ballades and Nocturnes very much!^^[/quote]

they support each other harmony and melody. Very Happy. with out one its not complete right? Smile

CripKilla wrote:
klixonnylle wrote:Sad songs are very well good. I think its because sad songs needs more emotions than other. You could try Chopin's etude10 no3 "tristesse". try this interpretation of Valentina

By the way, I hope he won't try it. It's really hard. It requires an incredible technique(B part). The A part isn't that hard, but what's the point if he can't finish it?
Also it's not called tristesse. It's people who published the piece who subtitled it tristesse(sadness in english). Beethoven moonlight sonata is also a good example. Beethoven never entended to name it moonlight.
Anyway, who cares...

i thought its them who make names Smile. if im right the first one who listened to chopin's etude10 no3 cry and said "i miss my home". Smile chopin is a really great person he wrote poems in piano Very Happy .


may i ask you guys. chopin is a French or polish? some people says that he's a French. but i think he's a polish. what is right?
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Post by Thomandy on Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:16 pm

He is Polish, but moved to France and is seen as both polish and french!^^
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Post by Klavier on Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:57 am

Hes human! =D
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Post by klixonnylle on Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:00 pm

ahahaha.. that man said that he's french national.. wahh. they are arguing in youtube.. heheh
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Post by Lanxil on Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:07 pm

frank wrote:
Trying this as your first piece could be a little bit frustrating for you...
Thanks for you advice...
Well it is still one of the easier pieces of chopin and I am a person with a strong will or from another person`s point of view just stubborn ^^... xD
and the first four bars aren`t that hard xDDDDD. No I know that this piece is too hard for a beginner as myself, but I just want to be able to play it that badly that I am just gonna try it xDDDD... (I know, that I will play it with many errors and probably later I will relearn that piece, but like I said I am very stubborn ^^)

Well about Chopin being french or polish. If I am not wrong he was not really a person being able to speak french (meaning fluently) but well whatever... The only thing that matters is his music, not his nationality ^^
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Post by CripKilla on Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:31 pm

he was borned in poland. But he stayed in Paris almost all his life. Of course he was able to speak fench fluently! Very Happy
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