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Post by VictorCS Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:03 am

that read music this way:

Am I the only one? Pianorollgj9


It's a bad habbit I got, but I read it much faster than I read staff....
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Post by Furelisa Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:28 am

Not sure if you are the only one, but it's my first time seeing something like this... Looks cool Smile I kind of want to learn how to read it now Smile will ask Andrew...
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Post by maggiekedves Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:58 am

fun which program do u use for that?
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Post by VictorCS Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:50 am

I use Music Masterworks, it's a midi program that does all the basic stuff. Several other programs have piano rolls,
usually programs that are meant to mix electronic music.

Ever heard of player pianos? They use piano rolls to play the music...
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Post by maggiekedves Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:35 pm

This Music Masterworks looks neat, I dont know it because it is not freeware and I usually collect freeware stuff.

So can you use your microphone to record any music and then it turns it into a midi plus sheet music? Like if you would record a Chopin could it analyse it precisely and make a sheet music out of it?

I was thinking if there is any program like that... I am not really good in playing music by ear but it would be nice to be able to play some of the melodies I like but I dont have sheet music for it.


Actually I just saw a player piano first in my whole life this week... I really got a kick of it... I was like kid in the candy store.
Now of course it is working with a palmtop like computer...
this roll thing is interesting... It would interesting to see how did they solve it in the "ancient" times...
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Post by pianohama Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:28 pm

maggiekedves wrote:This Music Masterworks looks neat, I dont know it because it is not freeware and I usually collect freeware stuff.

So can you use your microphone to record any music and then it turns it into a midi plus sheet music? Like if you would record a Chopin could it analyse it precisely and make a sheet music out of it?

I was thinking if there is any program like that... I am not really good in playing music by ear but it would be nice to be able to play some of the melodies I like but I dont have sheet music for it.


Actually I just saw a player piano first in my whole life this week... I really got a kick of it... I was like kid in the candy store.
Now of course it is working with a palmtop like computer...
this roll thing is interesting... It would interesting to see how did they solve it in the "ancient" times...

Well theres a program called Sibelius, you can add any MIDI song into it and it makes it into correct sheet music =) I use it, it's neat!
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Post by Jordan Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:21 pm

VictorCS wrote:that read music this way:

Am I the only one? Pianorollgj9


It's a bad habbit I got, but I read it much faster than I read staff....

Actually, I'm used to the piano rolls in Ableton Live, FL Studio, and CuBase, but I only use them when I'm producing. I don't usually use them to read while I'm playing piano. I prefer reading music the real way with sheets. If you're into composition, definitely try out Sibelius or Finale Notepad.
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Post by VictorCS Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:50 pm

Sibelius looks good, just to make my works look good, I should copy the data from guitar pro to Sibelius....

Offtopic:
I was struggling to get the right sound at the first end in my new melody,
but it seems I was able to make what I wanted today,
I've used a couple of days trying to make it possible to end the B part,
so I could merge the A part again....
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Post by g0tfish Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:40 am

that is sumthin i've never seen b4! it looks interesting enof! =] mayb i'll look for that someday? o__O
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Post by Jordan Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:47 am

It's Piano Roll Notation. Used in a DAW (Digital Audio Workshop) that has a piano roll implemented into it, which most DAW's have (e.g. FL Studio, CuBase, Reason, Ableton Live, Logic Pro, etc.) all have piano rolls for producers to use while composing a melody, bassline, chords, or anything that has to do with notation. Piano Roll Notation is very simple and easy to work with, especially while using a MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) controller.
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Post by maggiekedves Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:17 am

pianohama wrote:

Well theres a program called Sibelius, you can add any MIDI song into it and it makes it into correct sheet music =) I use it, it's neat!

I know Sibelius I ve tried it and I was not really excited about. The reason because when I create any sheet music from a MIDI or by hand the notes are not appearing on the sheet... first I thought that if I would print it out it would appear... but nothing... how am I supposed to know which note is a whole note or half or any other? So as fast as I got excited about Sibelius that fast I stopped loving it.

I tried the MIDI to sheet music section. It is fun. How can I make MIDIs out of mp3s or wmvs? Because some of the music I would like is more likely in those extensions.
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Post by Phobik2000 Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:40 am

Google for something like midi to mp3/wav, there are many programs, some free others not, I've personaly never used any though.
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Post by maggiekedves Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:58 am

phobik2000 wrote:Google for something like midi to mp3/wav, there are many programs, some free others not, I've personaly never used any though.

Actually I am thinking on the other way around... I know there are plenty of software - many of them free - which can convert midi to mp3 or wave...
But I am looking for something with makes MIDI from mp3 or other formats. The only one program I found is shareware... so I guess I just keep looking.
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Post by Phobik2000 Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:20 pm

Hum, I've personaly never seen any, but may I ask what is the purpose?
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Post by VictorCS Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:19 pm

If you wanna make mp3/wav/flac etc to MIDI, just forget it. These programs doesnt work. ( Yes, I've tried alot of stuff out there )

If you wanna make midi to mp3 it works, but the only time you wanna do that is if you wanna play them on your mp3 player.
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Post by Phobik2000 Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:22 pm

Melodyne DNA mite be able to achieve this, just look it up on youtube, you'll probably be amazed Surprised
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Post by maggiekedves Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:51 pm

Phobik2000 wrote:Hum, I've personaly never seen any, but may I ask what is the purpose?

The purpose is that there are many programs out there which translates the midi into sheet music... so if I find something I like and I can have it in midi that helps me to get the sheet music king
Not that I would not have enough sheet music already lol!
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Post by Phobik2000 Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:58 pm

That's a demanding thing. Melodyne's DNA engine might be able to do this, but were talking of hightech professional sound manipulation, so it probably will not be within the freeware range What a Face
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Post by Phobik2000 Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:04 pm

Or you could try this FREEWARE google hit i just got. Seems to work.
http://www.pluto.dti.ne.jp/~araki/amazingmidi/ What a Face
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Post by maggiekedves Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:22 pm

Phobik2000 wrote:Or you could try this FREEWARE google hit i just got. Seems to work.
http://www.pluto.dti.ne.jp/~araki/amazingmidi/ What a Face

Thats awesome Phobik thanks a lot... I was looking for similar for weeks now. I will try it as soon as I get home Very Happy
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