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Post by Amro Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:19 pm

Pianokid220 wrote:I have been looking for a circle of 5ths pic to download ^_^
Thanks

Here's One :

Scales list. - Page 3 Circle_of_fifths_and_color_wheel

Another One :

Scales list. - Page 3 Circle_Of_Fifths
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Post by Maki Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:06 am

Admin Andrew wrote:
FtOrReEeSsT wrote:Wow! This is a huge help for me.

Thanks for posting this!

Really? I thought people would laugh at how basic this information is! Well i'm glad i posted it then! king
I think it's really helpful! I've been looking for the notes for F# minor for a while now!
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Post by Phobik2000 Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:39 pm

You can use Windows lve Skydrive for sharing up to 25GB of free space that won't expire.
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Post by munkuminx Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:53 pm

Thank you!! I like the chart... actually, I love the chart. Would you mind if I printed it??
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Post by daany Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:18 am

Jordan wrote:
maggiekedves wrote:You can count on that Wink

How did I become an Intermediate pianist ?? Wink afro

It's our rank system. It goes by the number of posts you accumulate over the time - once you reach 20 posts you advance to the rank "Intermediate Pianist". The more posts you accumulate, the more ranks are prone to appear on your name. And so far you're doing a great job, Maggie! Like I said before, keep up the great work! Very Happy

Wow..did not know that it is soooo easy to become an Intermediate pianist Laughing ....so i don't have to practice the piano anymore just to post here clown Very Happy
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Post by Admin Andrew Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:18 pm

daany wrote:
Jordan wrote:
maggiekedves wrote:You can count on that Wink

How did I become an Intermediate pianist ?? Wink afro

It's our rank system. It goes by the number of posts you accumulate over the time - once you reach 20 posts you advance to the rank "Intermediate Pianist". The more posts you accumulate, the more ranks are prone to appear on your name. And so far you're doing a great job, Maggie! Like I said before, keep up the great work! Very Happy

Wow..did not know that it is soooo easy to become an Intermediate pianist Laughing ....so i don't have to practice the piano anymore just to post here clown Very Happy

hehe Smile If only it was that easy Wink You can progress pretty quickly in piano if you do one thing at a time and perfect each step. Don't be in a rush, because if you're in a rush it'll actually slow you down in the end.
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Post by lesengir Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:40 pm

I don't understand anything of what's goin on, not even in the new tutorials videos.. can someone explain it with plain text? my english is bad when speaking. maybe that's why.

So yeah.. I'm at this lesson now, but it's kinda frustrating that i don't get what's goin on , and why it's important, etc ect

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Post by Cloudy Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:55 pm

i'm not an expert myself but as i understand it:

the scale is a following of notes that fit together in a certain way.
if you write a song and use a certain scale, then it gets a specific tough to it. like in the G schale where there is no F but only an F# in it.

that brings up a mood other than if the song was with an F.

anyhow. these patterns can be used if you play songs that other people wrote. because you know: okay at the beginning there is the key signature with an F# in it, so i never ever play an F in this song (ofcourse except wenn tihs other sign is there to neutralize the F accidently)

it is actually easier to play if you know what # and b there are.

and then there is the thing with strong notes and weaker notes, it is like a music-law. but that will come in lesson 15 or so (?). it says that in every scale there are certain notes that dominate the others, and if the composer follows these rules the song will end up to be better, than wenn he doesnt obey them. it is a bit complicated because i think there is no explainable reason to it. it is just a fact, like 2+2=4

i hope i got it right, my fellow-advanced-mucisians ?!?
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Post by aendym Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:32 am

i hope i got it right, my fellow-advanced-mucisians ?!?




Sounds pretty good to me, Cloudy
Ive been wondering if one needs a "good ear" to be able to hear if notes sound "good" together or not? Cause for me I can gladly say I can hear if I need a # or a b. But I was wondering if there are people that dont even notice if a # or v is needed.... you know what I mean?
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Post by endre Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:13 am

aendym wrote:
i hope i got it right, my fellow-advanced-mucisians ?!?




Sounds pretty good to me, Cloudy
Ive been wondering if one needs a "good ear" to be able to hear if notes sound "good" together or not? Cause for me I can gladly say I can hear if I need a # or a b. But I was wondering if there are people that dont even notice if a # or v is needed.... you know what I mean?

Needed for what? I think this is not up for objective decision. Some of today's music 100 years ago would have been classified as "wrong", as "notes don't match" I think...?

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Post by Cloudy Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:15 am

i dont know, i can hear it to. but i have a pretty good feeling for it i guess.
if i hear a song it is not dificult to find out the notes of the leading voice if i try around a bit.

it takes for an average popsong about 5 or 10 minutes.
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Post by jazzylady Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:34 am

hi Andrew i understand the circle . now to sight read you have to know the scales .. whats the best way of memorizing them . Do i write them down and learn it that way . on a piece of paper with each page on each scale etc Only the popualr scales as in C F G Eb etc. A lot of music is written using just the 2 notes etc , in the melody the root is played on the chord line or bass .
I have written down the scales .
regards Jazzy lady {Beverley} Laughing

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Post by Pianoted Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:07 am

Thomandy wrote:Thanks Alot Maggie. Will be looking into the sites right away Smile

Edit:

E,F#,G#,A,B,C#,Eb,E (http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm)

In the E major scale - Wouldnt it be wrong to say that the E is flat??
It is just a guess, couse if one shold write this down it would look silly! Neutral
I was thinking that in a major scale, all notes where sharped?

Ex: E,F#,G#,A,B,C#,D#,E

Well observed, Thomandy. I've found another error on the referred website about chords at pianoworld.com, perhaps more serious.

I read somewhere that the formula for minor scales was

Tone - semitone - tone -tone - semitone - tone- tone.

Accordingly, the C minor scale should consist of those notes:

C - D - Eb - F - G - Ab - Bb - C.

See picture below, click it to see it more clearly.

[img]Scales list. - Page 3 Cminni11[/img]

But the application at pianoworld.com yielded the results C,D,Eb,F,G,A,B,C (which is wrong according to the formula!)

So that site cannot be trusted completely!

Finally, if I'm wrong about pianoworld being wrong, please do not hesitate to correct me!
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Post by Matthieu Stepec Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:59 am

Hello!

Actually this confusion comes from the fact that there are 3 kinds of minor scales: natural minor (C D Eb F G Ab Bb C) which is the Aeolian mode; harmonic minor (C D Eb F G Ab B C) which has an altered 7th in order to make a major dominant chord; and melodic minor (C D Eb F G A B C) which alters 6 and 7 in order to make a smoother melodic line. There is even a 4th kind that the Germans call "Zigeuner moll" (gypsy minor): C D Eb F# G Ab B C Wink
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Post by Pianoted Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:36 pm

Thank you Matthieu, for pointing this out.

It looks like our friends at Pianoworld have put the same program code into the application at http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm for minor and melodic scales, because both scales yield the same results, for any key entered. Go ahead and see for yourselves.

I hope I will get my digital piano in a few weeks time and start practising scales, but in the meantime I'm trying to understand them. But should I rather practise melodic minor scales than minor, because Andrew said minor scales were rarely used?
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Post by L4keoFire Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:09 pm

Man, I don't understand a single word of what is said here. I'll have to practice more theory before getting into it and try my best 'reading' the circle.
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Post by Rickard Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:28 am

L4keoFire wrote:Man, I don't understand a single word of what is said here. I'll have to practice more theory before getting into it and try my best 'reading' the circle.
Have you seen Andrew's music theory videos? If not, then go ahead and watch them and do the homeworks. I love the vidoes, I watched lesson #32 yesterday and it was awesome.

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Post by Adams motion Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:40 pm

I want things like all these blue scale, pentatonic scale and other scales on key f sharp

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Post by RNewcome Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:15 am

Hi Folks.  I worked with Andrew on a problem I had with practicing the same scales in the same order all the time.  He suggested a free site.  http://www.random.org/lists/ which works great but since it's a bit tedious to type in all the scale names I've copied Andrew lists without spaces, I then copy and paste it into randomizer and Voila!  A new scale order to test my scale knowledge since randomly is how a teacher or a certification board would ask for them.  Hope it helps someone.

Here's the link to the site  http://www.random.org/lists/


C Major & a minor (no sharps or flats)
G Major & e minor (F#)
D Major & b minor (F#, C#)
A Major & f# minor (F#, C#, G#)
E Major & c# minor (F#, C#, G#, D#)
B Major & g# minor (F#, C#, G#, D#, A#)
F# Major & d# minor (F#, C#, G#, D#, A#, E#)
C# Major & a# minor (F#, C#, G#, D#, A#, E#, B#)
F Major & d minor (Bb)
Bb Major & g minor (Bb, Eb)
Eb Major & c minor (Bb, Eb, Ab)
Ab Major & f minor (Bb, Eb, Ab, Db)
Db Major & Bb minor (Bb, Eb, Ab, Db, Gb)
Gb Major & Eb minor (Bb, Eb, Ab, Db, Gb, Cb)
Cb Major & Ab minor (Bb, Eb, Ab, Db, Gb, Cb, Fb)

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