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Post by Admin Andrew Fri May 15, 2009 5:24 pm

Smile well, a keyboard is limited by a light action and a very small dynamic range. Smile but it's ok because once you get a piano you will be able to learn how to express yourself even more Very Happy

great job on your piece though Smile I'm looking forward to more!
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Post by MysteriousGgirl Fri May 15, 2009 8:22 pm

Admin Andrew wrote:Smile well, a keyboard is limited by a light action and a very small dynamic range. Smile but it's ok because once you get a piano you will be able to learn how to express yourself even more Very Happy

great job on your piece though Smile I'm looking forward to more!

Sorry again but what is the light action?? Embarassed
And I heard people say that if u begin learn on keyboard u can't play or learn the piano..is that true?? Question Exclamation
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Post by Thomandy Fri May 15, 2009 9:15 pm

MysteriousGgirl wrote:Thanks Andrew.. Smile
I want to ask! u said (and for a keyboard you did pretty much a perfect job)
u mean the keyboard is hard to play on or the opposite or what ??!
I want to know..cos I dont understand the real difference between the keyboard and the piano..

MysteriousGgirl wrote:
Admin Andrew wrote:Smile well, a keyboard is limited by a light action and a very small dynamic range. Smile but it's ok because once you get a piano you will be able to learn how to express yourself even more Very Happy

great job on your piece though Smile I'm looking forward to more!

Sorry again but what is the light action?? Embarassed
And I heard people say that if u begin learn on keyboard u can't play or learn the piano..is that true?? Question Exclamation

Well, a keyboard is a keyboard Razz To be honest the music loose most of it content on a keyboard since you dont got any dynamic control! Andrew once told me, 1year ago now, it has stuck with me cause it was very wisely put

"When you know the notes, you have only done 20% of the job"

So this basically mean that on a keyboard you Can almost only do 20-30% of the job!!
Interpretation is Essential! And you cant really interpret a piece on a keyboard!! Only thing you can control is the tempo! Add some rubato(means to have varied speed).

I started on a keyboard, and the difference is Enormous!!!!
I felt that those 3months I had on the keyboard, that I had missed out on so much! And my development didnt start for real until I got my Digital Piano Smile

My opinion:
On a keyboard, you can only give a hint of what music sounds like!
But on a piano, you can Create music!!
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Post by MysteriousGgirl Sat May 16, 2009 9:08 am

Thomandy wrote:
MysteriousGgirl wrote:Thanks Andrew.. Smile
I want to ask! u said (and for a keyboard you did pretty much a perfect job)
u mean the keyboard is hard to play on or the opposite or what ??!
I want to know..cos I dont understand the real difference between the keyboard and the piano..

MysteriousGgirl wrote:
Admin Andrew wrote:Smile well, a keyboard is limited by a light action and a very small dynamic range. Smile but it's ok because once you get a piano you will be able to learn how to express yourself even more Very Happy

great job on your piece though Smile I'm looking forward to more!

Sorry again but what is the light action?? Embarassed
And I heard people say that if u begin learn on keyboard u can't play or learn the piano..is that true?? Question Exclamation

Well, a keyboard is a keyboard Razz To be honest the music loose most of it content on a keyboard since you dont got any dynamic control! Andrew once told me, 1year ago now, it has stuck with me cause it was very wisely put

"When you know the notes, you have only done 20% of the job"

So this basically mean that on a keyboard you Can almost only do 20-30% of the job!!
Interpretation is Essential! And you cant really interpret a piece on a keyboard!! Only thing you can control is the tempo! Add some rubato(means to have varied speed).

I started on a keyboard, and the difference is Enormous!!!!
I felt that those 3months I had on the keyboard, that I had missed out on so much! And my development didnt start for real until I got my Digital Piano Smile

My opinion:
On a keyboard, you can only give a hint of what music sounds like!
But on a piano, you can Create music!!


Thanks for answering.. Very Happy
But im sad now cos this means I will not develop until I get a real piano and this is far Sad and if I get one I have to start from the begging.. Shocked


What do u think about DGX-630 yamaha is it useful ?? Neutral
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Post by klixonnylle Sat May 16, 2009 9:30 am

im also playing in a keyboard.. i wanna learn more in piano especially on classical.. so im planning to buy a digital piano.. what do you think is the cheapest digital piano?? please help!!
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Post by MysteriousGgirl Sat May 16, 2009 9:44 am

Well, me I know nothing about these things lol!
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Post by klixonnylle Sat May 16, 2009 9:51 am

who knows.. please help!! ^^
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Post by Klavier Sat May 16, 2009 12:36 pm

I'm getting a yamaha p85, it has pedals and proper piano-like weighted keys, but its £550. I know it won't be as amazing as a piano, but I'm sure it'll do great for learning on for later transfer and explosion of expressive masterfulness on a grand or summit Very Happy
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Post by Thomandy Sat May 16, 2009 2:02 pm

MysteriousGgirl wrote:
Thomandy wrote:
MysteriousGgirl wrote:Thanks Andrew.. Smile
I want to ask! u said (and for a keyboard you did pretty much a perfect job)
u mean the keyboard is hard to play on or the opposite or what ??!
I want to know..cos I dont understand the real difference between the keyboard and the piano..

MysteriousGgirl wrote:
Admin Andrew wrote:Smile well, a keyboard is limited by a light action and a very small dynamic range. Smile but it's ok because once you get a piano you will be able to learn how to express yourself even more Very Happy

great job on your piece though Smile I'm looking forward to more!

Sorry again but what is the light action?? Embarassed
And I heard people say that if u begin learn on keyboard u can't play or learn the piano..is that true?? Question Exclamation

Well, a keyboard is a keyboard Razz To be honest the music loose most of it content on a keyboard since you dont got any dynamic control! Andrew once told me, 1year ago now, it has stuck with me cause it was very wisely put

"When you know the notes, you have only done 20% of the job"

So this basically mean that on a keyboard you Can almost only do 20-30% of the job!!
Interpretation is Essential! And you cant really interpret a piece on a keyboard!! Only thing you can control is the tempo! Add some rubato(means to have varied speed).

I started on a keyboard, and the difference is Enormous!!!!
I felt that those 3months I had on the keyboard, that I had missed out on so much! And my development didnt start for real until I got my Digital Piano Smile

My opinion:
On a keyboard, you can only give a hint of what music sounds like!
But on a piano, you can Create music!!


Thanks for answering.. Very Happy
But im sad now cos this means I will not develop until I get a real piano and this is far Sad and if I get one I have to start from the begging.. Shocked


What do u think about DGX-630 yamaha is it useful ?? Neutral

Yeah Smile But its not starting from the beginning though, but im pretty sure you are only delaying your developement and might get into bad habbits, and you loose time to build strength! So IF you can get a piano, upright or dgital you Should do it as soon as possible Smile

Im not sure what the DGX is like, but you have to have good dynamic control, Weighted keys, pedals and good sampled sounds if you first are going for it!! You can get this for about 1000$+
But might get some great offers on early models ect that are less, but I think thats harder to find!

My piano is a medium model and cost 3000$, and the lowest model where about 1500$+/- and the most expensive was 4500$+/-
I would recommend Not buying a dynamical keyboard with semi-weighted keys! Then I think its better to save another year to get something good and worthy the time you spend on it!

Based on the hours I have had at the piano, its probably the cheapest "entertainment-thing" I have ever bought(pr hour). I have bought games for 80$ and spendt 3-4hours on it Razz
Thats 20$ pr hour but this piano, lets say I have 250hours on it or more thats 12$ pr hour, and still I got sooo many hours to come!! Smile
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Post by Klavier Sat May 16, 2009 2:20 pm

Great way of putting the hours thing Thomandy Very Happy I feel a lot nicer about giving away lots of money now :3
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Post by MysteriousGgirl Sat May 16, 2009 5:53 pm

Thomandy wrote:
MysteriousGgirl wrote:
Thomandy wrote:
MysteriousGgirl wrote:Thanks Andrew.. Smile
I want to ask! u said (and for a keyboard you did pretty much a perfect job)
u mean the keyboard is hard to play on or the opposite or what ??!
I want to know..cos I dont understand the real difference between the keyboard and the piano..

MysteriousGgirl wrote:
Admin Andrew wrote:Smile well, a keyboard is limited by a light action and a very small dynamic range. Smile but it's ok because once you get a piano you will be able to learn how to express yourself even more Very Happy

great job on your piece though Smile I'm looking forward to more!

Sorry again but what is the light action?? Embarassed
And I heard people say that if u begin learn on keyboard u can't play or learn the piano..is that true?? Question Exclamation

Well, a keyboard is a keyboard Razz To be honest the music loose most of it content on a keyboard since you dont got any dynamic control! Andrew once told me, 1year ago now, it has stuck with me cause it was very wisely put

"When you know the notes, you have only done 20% of the job"

So this basically mean that on a keyboard you Can almost only do 20-30% of the job!!
Interpretation is Essential! And you cant really interpret a piece on a keyboard!! Only thing you can control is the tempo! Add some rubato(means to have varied speed).

I started on a keyboard, and the difference is Enormous!!!!
I felt that those 3months I had on the keyboard, that I had missed out on so much! And my development didnt start for real until I got my Digital Piano Smile

My opinion:
On a keyboard, you can only give a hint of what music sounds like!
But on a piano, you can Create music!!


Thanks for answering.. Very Happy
But im sad now cos this means I will not develop until I get a real piano and this is far Sad and if I get one I have to start from the begging.. Shocked


What do u think about DGX-630 yamaha is it useful ?? Neutral

Yeah Smile But its not starting from the beginning though, but im pretty sure you are only delaying your developement and might get into bad habbits, and you loose time to build strength! So IF you can get a piano, upright or dgital you Should do it as soon as possible Smile

Im not sure what the DGX is like, but you have to have good dynamic control, Weighted keys, pedals and good sampled sounds if you first are going for it!! You can get this for about 1000$+
But might get some great offers on early models ect that are less, but I think thats harder to find!

My piano is a medium model and cost 3000$, and the lowest model where about 1500$+/- and the most expensive was 4500$+/-
I would recommend Not buying a dynamical keyboard with semi-weighted keys! Then I think its better to save another year to get something good and worthy the time you spend on it!

Based on the hours I have had at the piano, its probably the cheapest "entertainment-thing" I have ever bought(pr hour). I have bought games for 80$ and spendt 3-4hours on it Razz
Thats 20$ pr hour but this piano, lets say I have 250hours on it or more thats 12$ pr hour, and still I got sooo many hours to come!! Smile

This is the DGX-630 and the pedals u can put them and take them off as I know
here is the link:
http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/YAMAHA+DGX630+PEDALE.JPG

I dont know alot about the best pianos..actually I dont know anything.. Smile
Maybe u know about pianos cos u have seen alot and tried alot, more than that u r in a level u know the diffrences between them..
Thanks alot for helping me..
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Post by MysteriousGgirl Sat May 16, 2009 5:58 pm

Hello Guys !
I post a new vedio.. Very Happy



Feel Free To Comment Very Happy
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Post by Admin Andrew Sat May 16, 2009 9:51 pm

Smile the DGX630 is one of the best cheap models to start with i'd say Smile you can use it until your a late intermediate or early advanced pianist Smile

the importaint thing is that you're still playing Smile just because you play a keyboard doesn't mean you can't improve right now, but down the road you'll need something better.

You're doing great! keep going!
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Post by Thomandy Sun May 17, 2009 12:06 am

MysteriousGgirl wrote:
This is the DGX-630 and the pedals u can put them and take them off as I know
here is the link:
http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/YAMAHA+DGX630+PEDALE.JPG

I dont know alot about the best pianos..actually I dont know anything.. Smile
Maybe u know about pianos cos u have seen alot and tried alot, more than that u r in a level u know the diffrences between them..
Thanks alot for helping me..

Andrew know better Smile And if he say its good then you should get it Smile
I have Never tried another piano than the one I got at home Razz hehehe
I started 1year ago, and havnt had the chance to even play on a real one! (Mine is Digital) Smile
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Post by surehit123 Sun May 17, 2009 2:00 am

That's what you call a music workstation, anyway what do u use to record ur videos?
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Post by klixonnylle Sun May 17, 2009 3:44 am

i guess its a digicam Razz . about the piano.. our school had a upright and i thing its free to use. do you think it will help when i play that 1-2hrs a day after school?? then practice in my keyboard?? coz there's no space in our house now for a digital. we will extend our house next year. then after that ill buy my digital or an upright but a year is a long time. do you think that i should use the piano in school for a year so i can practice in a piano not on keyboard??
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Post by surehit123 Sun May 17, 2009 5:06 am

LOL at least its a digicam I only use my father's Nokia N70

Well, based on my opinion, practice your arpeggios, riffs and scales on your keyboard and practice expressionism and dynamics/harmony on the piano at school. Very Happy If the key sizes are the same.

Well that's just me, wait for Andrew's advice on the topic since he's the teacher. Very Happy

Andrew! we need you fast!
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Post by surehit123 Sun May 17, 2009 5:09 am



Andrew know better Smile And if he say its good then you should get it Smile
I have Never tried another piano than the one I got at home Razz hehehe
I started 1year ago, and havnt had the chance to even play on a real one! (Mine is Digital) Smile

Well true that Andrew's advice does play a big role but everything really depends on how you feel about it. If you're comfortable and confident with it, you should definitely get it.
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Post by Admin Andrew Sun May 17, 2009 6:26 am

Smile Well, to be honest, I just said the DGX is good because I've played one a few times but I haven't played that many keyboards. I just know the DGX is decent for a decent price Smile i think Thomas's piano would be better, but the DGX is a cheaper alternative.

Also, I don't think i'm really an athority on keyboards Smile I know more about acoustic pianos and music in general XD
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Post by surehit123 Sun May 17, 2009 7:46 am

LOL true Very Happy
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Post by MysteriousGgirl Sun May 17, 2009 8:09 am

surehit123 wrote:That's what you call a music workstation, anyway what do u use to record ur videos?

I use degital camera Very Happy
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Post by MysteriousGgirl Sun May 17, 2009 8:11 am

Admin Andrew wrote:Smile the DGX630 is one of the best cheap models to start with i'd say Smile you can use it until your a late intermediate or early advanced pianist Smile

the importaint thing is that you're still playing Smile just because you play a keyboard doesn't mean you can't improve right now, but down the road you'll need something better.

You're doing great! keep going!

Thanks again Andrew Embarassed Very Happy
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Post by klixonnylle Sun May 17, 2009 1:50 pm

surehit123 wrote:LOL at least its a digicam I only use my father's Nokia N70

Well, based on my opinion, practice your arpeggios, riffs and scales on your keyboard and practice expressionism and dynamics/harmony on the piano at school. Very Happy If the key sizes are the same.

Well that's just me, wait for Andrew's advice on the topic since he's the teacher. Very Happy

Andrew! we need you fast!


i have my 49k piano only and the school has an upright. thanks sure ill do it. i never played in a upright since that horrible examination day hehehe. so i need to adjust in pressing the keys coz i have a light weight keys in my keyboard. thanks for your advice!! what about your opinion Sir Andrew??
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Post by MysteriousGgirl Mon May 18, 2009 11:05 am

klixonnylle wrote:i guess its a digicam Razz . about the piano.. our school had a upright and i thing its free to use. do you think it will help when i play that 1-2hrs a day after school?? then practice in my keyboard?? coz there's no space in our house now for a digital. we will extend our house next year. then after that ill buy my digital or an upright but a year is a long time. do you think that i should use the piano in school for a year so i can practice in a piano not on keyboard??

Why not!!! u can practice on both..so then u will get more knowlage about pianos..and know the diffrences between them... Very Happy trying things is good..
and let us wait Andrew's answer.
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Post by klixonnylle Mon May 18, 2009 11:07 am

ahmmm ok.. ill practice both.. but im not sure if i can practice every day..
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