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Post by no2man on Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:02 pm

Hi Andrew, firstly thanks! for your kindness and generosity through all the tutorials you have made. They have taught me a lot. Recently, after watching your video on "How to learn a new song for any piano, guitar, bass or drum set", I tried -FOR THE FIRST TIME- applying mind play in my practice of a song. In the past, I used to practise by using muscle memory.
I found out could mind play well if I am only using one hand. But when I used two hands and mindplaying them, problems start to come in.
It's hard for me to visualize the notes of the two hands being played together, especially when each hand is playing more than one note at a time. I will easily get stuck somewhere and I need to concentrate very hard to go on, even when I am mindplaying like very very slowly.
It's very daunting when I tried very hard to mindplay for a long time and the progress is very slow, I can't mind play the piece fluently even at low speeds. What should I do? x.x Should I learn easier songs first with mindplay before proceeding to the songs which I had a hard time mindplaying, even for a single bar? Are there any ways to train mindplaying? Lastly, for the saying out of notes while mindplaying, what if the notes comes in the form of chords? and what if there are many notes in a bar? Sorry for the spam of questions but I am really totally cluess now =/

Hope you can answer my questions, thanks a lot!

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Re: Need help about Mind Play t.t!

Post by pianohama on Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:38 pm

How long have you been playing piano ? Or any instrument for that matter?
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Post by Admin Andrew on Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:19 pm

Mindplay takes time to develop. Try learning simple songs. It actually will get better over time as your mental capacity increases. Smile If you have to play more than one note at a time, say the notes from the bottom note to the top.

Smile hope that helps

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Re: Need help about Mind Play t.t!

Post by no2man on Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:27 am

To pianohama: I have been playing piano for nearly 4 years and have stopped taking lessons for a year.

To Andrew: Thanks for the guidance! I guess I know how I should start now.

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Post by pianohama on Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:49 am

no2man wrote:To pianohama: I have been playing piano for nearly 4 years and have stopped taking lessons for a year.

To Andrew: Thanks for the guidance! I guess I know how I should start now.

Well, I've always found it easier to mindplay using ONLY sound..

It takes more mental power to also use an image in your head.. Also it could help to memorize how different chords sound so you dont have to take the left hand notes individually but just remember the chord and focus on the melody..

This is what works for me, hope theres something in there for you, hehe
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Re: Need help about Mind Play t.t!

Post by no2man on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:07 am

pianohama wrote:
Well, I've always found it easier to mindplay using ONLY sound..

It takes more mental power to also use an image in your head.. Also it could help to memorize how different chords sound so you dont have to take the left hand notes individually but just remember the chord and focus on the melody..

This is what works for me, hope theres something in there for you, hehe

I see. About the memorizing of chords, were you refering to the chords in the form of the notes being played individually or the chords with all the notes being played together, which I find terribly difficult. And thanks for the ideas!

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Post by pianohama on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:21 am

The whole chord played at the same time! Just as a backup track for the melody it self..
I dont know if you have absolute pitch, but ill play the odds and assume you dont:

First you need to know how the 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 tone in the scale sounds.
Then you need to know how a major, a minor, and seventh chord sounds. Im sure you already know...

And then when you imagine playing a piece you think to yourself. Ok the 3rd tone in the scale how does that sound ok hmm lets say its a major seventh ok now i know exactly how the chord will sound in the background of the melody so i can just focus on the melody. And the melody is just simple climbing up and down the scale! Sometimes there are octaves or 4th or 5th jumps, but considering your time played you shouldnt have a hard time recognizing them ^^!

Considering your time played you wont have much trouble learning this technique
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Re: Need help about Mind Play t.t!

Post by no2man on Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:53 am

Oh, I think I got it, thanks. Shall try it out sometime. but too bad I don't have absolute pitch and haven't been developing it. Think got lots of hard work to do =/

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