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Can you make a video about how to play Pursuit of Perfection?

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Post by atihockey Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:34 pm

Hi Andrew,

I'm a 33 years old guy from Hungary. Father of two boys (6 and 8 years old) In this february they have started to learn to play piano on a Keyboard and one month ago we bought an upright piano. It was a dream to me to play piano and now I have inspiration from my children Smile I have found you on Youtube and I have to say You are great. I learn a lot from your lessons and I really love to play Für Elise thanks for that tutorial! I know that you teach us how to fish but I really would love to learn "Pursuit of Perfection". If it is possible please help me to learn that.

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Post by VictorCS Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:05 pm

I can tell you that Pursuit of Perfection is easier than it looks, ofcourse, you'll have to work on dynamics etc, but the piece itself is pretty repetive.
And it shouldn't be hard to learn to read a sheet, and ofcourse, when you've first learned it, you can play anything you want.
My opinion is that it's harder to play the piano than it is to learn to read a sheet. I usually dont read muic from sheet,
I read it from piano roll, but I dont have any problems with sheets, it's just the habbit.

When you first know how to fish, you can fish anything you want lol!
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Post by Thomandy Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:04 pm

VictorCS wrote:I can tell you that Pursuit of Perfection is easier than it looks, ofcourse, you'll have to work on dynamics etc, but the piece itself is pretty repetive.
And it shouldn't be hard to learn to read a sheet, and ofcourse, when you've first learned it, you can play anything you want.
My opinion is that it's harder to play the piano than it is to learn to read a sheet. I usually dont read muic from sheet,
I read it from piano roll, but I dont have any problems with sheets, it's just the habbit.

When you first know how to fish, you can fish anything you want lol!

Yup =) It took me 2 hours back last January to learn how to read sheets, and I was counting up and down a lot the first month from the different C's but suddenly I caught more and more keys and note-locations and now I can pinpoint easly within 4 octaves.. So use those few hours to learn sheets and learning songs will get sooo much easier after a while of getting it to stick in the backbones Smile
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Post by Amro Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:58 pm

VictorCS wrote:I read it from piano roll, but I dont have any problems with sheets

Mmm ...
How can you read music from Piano Roll ?!


I find easy to learn how to read sheets too .. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Thomandy Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:12 pm

Amro wrote:
VictorCS wrote:I read it from piano roll, but I dont have any problems with sheets

Mmm ...
How can you read music from Piano Roll ?!


I find easy to learn how to read sheets too .. Rolling Eyes

He has shown it in a post here somewhere. Its very visual and easy looking Smile But you need a computer and I like papersheets much better than draging my laptop to the piano Razz
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Post by Amro Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:32 pm

Thomandy wrote:He has shown it in a post here somewhere. Its very visual and easy looking Smile But you need a computer and I like papersheets much better than draging my laptop to the piano Razz

Mmmm ...
Yep reading from sheets give you another feelings ..
But I dont know how to read sheets from Piano Roll ?!
I know that Piano roll is a piano works by rolls itself .. you just put the song roll & it will Play it !!
Right Question

Can't find any Topics about that Embarassed
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Post by VictorCS Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:24 pm

Yes.... And most modern music programs today have this feature so you can watch it as piano roll instead of sheet.
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Post by Thomandy Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:49 pm

Amro wrote:
But I dont know how to read sheets from Piano Roll ?!
I know that Piano roll is a piano works by rolls itself .. you just put the song roll & it will Play it !!
Right :?

Nono, not reading form the roll itselfe Smile hehe
But its a program, it looks kind of like this or maybe exactly like this:

Im not sure if the pianorollprogram playes like this, but you can at least watch in this way - Vic is the expert on this!!

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Post by Amro Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:05 pm

Thomandy wrote:
Nono, not reading form the roll itselfe Smile hehe
But its a program, it looks kind of like this or maybe exactly like this:

Im not sure if the pianorollprogram playes like this, but you can at least watch in this way - Vic is the expert on this!!

No no ..
The classical Piano roll works itself ..
Look at this :



The Vid. you have posted is made by a software called : Synthesia ...
It takes a MIDI file & convert it to a song as shown in the vid.

So I don't know what Victor Means ??!

That's Why I asked Very Happy
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Post by Thomandy Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:09 pm

Amro wrote:
Thomandy wrote:
Nono, not reading form the roll itselfe Smile hehe
But its a program, it looks kind of like this or maybe exactly like this:

Im not sure if the pianorollprogram playes like this, but you can at least watch in this way - Vic is the expert on this!!

No no ..
The classical Piano roll works itself ..

The Vid. you have posted is made by a software called : Synthesia ...
It takes a MIDI file & convert it to a song as shown in the vid.

Hehe, you missunderstand me! Cause its named the same(or almost same, im not sure). The prog I showed you look LIKE, I didnt say it was that prog, but they are VERY alike Smile I know what a pianoroll are, and I have seen those many times. But since you are familiar with, what you say is called Synthesia, then I can tell you that what Vic means is almost exactly like that prog, and that you look at it the same way!!! Smile Details on how and so Im not sure!! Smile

Like Victor say: You can watch it LIKE a piano roll - Not that it IS a piano roll Smile
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Post by VictorCS Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:32 pm

Lets clear some thing up, I'm the master you know Wink

Synthesia is pretty much "cheating" lol!

I'm using Music Masterworks, and it looks like this:

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Post by Amro Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:24 pm

Thomandy wrote:Hehe, you missunderstand me! Cause its named the same(or almost same, im not sure). The prog I showed you look LIKE, I didnt say it was that prog, but they are VERY alike Smile I know what a pianoroll are, and I have seen those many times. But since you are familiar with, what you say is called Synthesia, then I can tell you that what Vic means is almost exactly like that prog, and that you look at it the same way!!! Smile Details on how and so Im not sure!! Smile

Like Victor say: You can watch it LIKE a piano roll - Not that it IS a piano roll Smile

Yup Yup ..
Sorry for Missunderstanding scratch

Synthesia is a game actually & not a software ..
You have to connect your Keyboard to the computer & play through it ..
If you don't have a connector you can play with your comp. keyboard ..
But it's very hard of course ...

Plus, not all MIDI files are 1 Layer ..
So, it's Impossible to play a MIDI file with 7 layer for example (You need 7 hands then)

mmm .. Synthesia is a Boring game .. (after trial lol! )


About Music Masterworks Victor ..
I got it & tried it ..

Very Good ..
But they say that it converts .MIDI to .wav !!

Is that Possible ?!

study
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Post by VictorCS Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:32 pm

I dont have the latest version, so I dont know if it converts midi to wav, but it does atleast convert wav to midi, but it's an unnessecary feature since it works badly...

Winamp have a feature where you can convert midi to wav tho... Not that I understand why you would want that...

Sometimes midifiles are splitt into several layers, even if they are meant to be together as one, but Music Masterworks can merge layers perfect...
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Post by Amro Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:54 pm

oooh .. Sorry Sorry ..

I mean from .Wav to .MIDI Embarassed


It's a great feature .. so that you can convert any song into a MIDI file Shocked

Have you tried it to work badly Question


About merging layers .. I can't find this feature Rolling Eyes
Would you learn me how to merge a MIDI file Question

Thx Very Happy
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Post by pianohama Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:16 pm

.midi is a type of file that registers "tones" in a pattern. Look at the picture of those piano rolls. A midi file kinda looks like that, think of tones as an alphabet and a song like a text.

Therefore it is possible to easily convert midi to wav. But it is nearly impossible to convert a wav or mp3 to midi, even if it was possible it would probably sound blurry and sh*tty. Smile Hope this helps.
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Post by VictorCS Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:13 pm

if it's not a monophonic(?) wav file, like an instrument that play with one note at the time, wav to midi is useless.
But then again, Melodyne is a program used by pro's, and works like this wav to midi,
but specialized in making a voice out of tune sounding in tune, but you can do single note music too.

The latest addition to Melodyne, direct note access will be able to separate(?) chords, but still only promised to work ok with single instruments,
but most songs are a bunch of recordings, merged together, so while in studio, you can fix the guitar if it's out of tune, and then mix the song.

Merging layers in Music Masterwork:
Copy second layer, past it in first layer ( paste as "mix" ), then it'll get merged into the first layer. In some cases it can be useful.
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Post by Amro Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:54 pm

VictorCS wrote:if it's not a monophonic(?) wav file, like an instrument that play with one note at the time, wav to midi is useless.
But then again, Melodyne is a program used by pro's, and works like this wav to midi,
but specialized in making a voice out of tune sounding in tune, but you can do single note music too.

The latest addition to Melodyne, direct note access will be able to separate(?) chords, but still only promised to work ok with single instruments,
but most songs are a bunch of recordings, merged together, so while in studio, you can fix the guitar if it's out of tune, and then mix the song.

Merging layers in Music Masterwork:
Copy second layer, past it in first layer ( paste as "mix" ), then it'll get merged into the first layer. In some cases it can be useful.


Thaaaaaaaaaaaank YOU Very Happy
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Post by Aigle Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:39 pm

Does anybody have sheet music for Pursuit of Perfection?
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Post by VictorCS Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:30 pm

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Post by Aigle Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:31 pm

Thank you very much Very Happy
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Post by Admin Andrew Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:36 am

Smile looks like you already got the sheet. MAN... Neutral your display picture makes my bum feel like it's about to bleed....ahhh...:S pain
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Post by Thomandy Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:13 pm

Admin Andrew wrote:Smile looks like you already got the sheet. MAN... Neutral your display picture makes my bum feel like it's about to bleed....ahhh...:S pain

Hehehe, i didnt notice until you said that now Razz
But it should'nt hurt to much if you use it in the right direction Razz hehe

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Post by Admin Andrew Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:09 pm

Thomandy wrote:
Admin Andrew wrote:Smile looks like you already got the sheet. MAN... Neutral your display picture makes my bum feel like it's about to bleed....ahhh...:S pain

Hehehe, i didnt notice until you said that now Razz
But it should'nt hurt to much if you use it in the right direction Razz hehe

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lol!! right direction is KEY! If that toilet paper came with a manual that's ONE manual you would want to make sure you READ VERY CAREFULLY! Because your A$$ is litturaly on the line.
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Post by VictorCS Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:13 am

Pursuit of Perfect Toilet Paper Manual lol!
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Post by Thomandy Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:04 am

Admin Andrew wrote:
Thomandy wrote:
Admin Andrew wrote:Smile looks like you already got the sheet. MAN... Neutral your display picture makes my bum feel like it's about to bleed....ahhh...:S pain

Hehehe, i didnt notice until you said that now Razz
But it should'nt hurt to much if you use it in the right direction Razz hehe

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lol!! right direction is KEY! If that toilet paper came with a manual that's ONE manual you would want to make sure you READ VERY CAREFULLY! Because your A$$ is litturaly on the line.

For sure lol!
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