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Post by Asernume2 on Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:01 am

Heloo there.

I'm completely new at piano, and i'm trying to to learn a song.

It involves some repeated playing of 3 keys right next to eachother, and in the sheet it says to use fingers 3, 4 an 5.But it's very difficult to play this smoothly, i sometimes get it right, and some times don't.

I realize when i look at my hands and try to bend my fingers, the pinky and ring finger on my left hand bends smoothly, but on my right hand they both sort of "stop" a little at the top joint when i try to bend them.

I realize that proper finger position is sometimes important to make easy transitions from one part of the song to the next, but on these part it's just as easy to use fingers 2, 3 and 4.

So i guess my question is, as a beginner how slavishly do you follow the fingering which is marked on the sheets? And since it is somewhat an issue of simply the anathomy of the hands, can you become any better at using these fingers? Or should i just use other fingers?

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Post by arzi on Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:53 pm

The numbers on the sheets for the fingers are just suggested fingers to be used, i learned here that you can use any finger you want as long as you are comfortable with it. Smile
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Post by Thomandy on Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:01 pm

Im split on this desission. Im a fan of trying to use fingering that makes easyest transitions even though its hard for my to execute when I start it. But to progress I feel you are fooling yourself if you always are going to use what you already can do. Like in my fur elise, I use my 4 and 5 in the start. It was really hard at first cause I coulndt do it with right flow, but after 1-2-3 weeks suddenly it was perfect every time. And it also felt A lot better using these fingers in other pieces!

So my answer is to mainly do what makes the transitions easyest, but try to stick with fingering that dont feel natural at once, cause that way you are learning a wider range of fingering till the next and harder pieces you are going to learn.
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Post by arzi on Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:09 pm

i see, so it would also train your fingers as well Smile
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Post by Jordan on Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:57 am

Asernume2 wrote:Heloo there.

I'm completely new at piano, and i'm trying to to learn a song.

It involves some repeated playing of 3 keys right next to eachother, and in the sheet it says to use fingers 3, 4 an 5.But it's very difficult to play this smoothly, i sometimes get it right, and some times don't.

I realize when i look at my hands and try to bend my fingers, the pinky and ring finger on my left hand bends smoothly, but on my right hand they both sort of "stop" a little at the top joint when i try to bend them.

I realize that proper finger position is sometimes important to make easy transitions from one part of the song to the next, but on these part it's just as easy to use fingers 2, 3 and 4.

So i guess my question is, as a beginner how slavishly do you follow the fingering which is marked on the sheets? And since it is somewhat an issue of simply the anathomy of the hands, can you become any better at using these fingers? Or should i just use other fingers?

Your 4 and 5 fingers are naturally weak and they have to be trained to get strengthened, and it's also because we rarely use them. A lot of pieces require you to use your 4th and 5th fingers, especially stuff in the Baroque era of music that requires you to have finger independence and strength, especially Bach, Scarlatti, and even Mozart in the Classical era. Hanon exercises will strengthen all of your fingers, including especially the 4th and 5th, and give you the ability to be congruent with them. There are also great studies by Czerny and Bach's Two and Three Part Inventions that help you with finger independence. Using these exercises are great but if you learn how to use your forearm properly, then executing your fingers while playing will actually be easier and simpler. It also depends on how you're sitting at the piano, try to sit up straight and have your knees under the piano so that you can play comfortably. All the strength for pushing the keys down with your fingers are coming from your arms. There's also a lot of posts on the forum about the Hanon exercises and what not, use the search function to have a look at them.

After searching the forum check out Andrew's video on the Hanon exercises for a brief summary and tutorial on how to go about playing them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8S-Fmfu_is&feature=PlayList&p=253192EED47525A8&index=33
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Post by Asernume2 on Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:46 am

Thanks for the feedback.I notice it get's a little better the more i play, so i guess it's also a strength issue.

It's a bit funny, i've never thought about whether there's even any muscles to train in the fingers heh.

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