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Post by Maddogron on Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:45 am

Hello everyone,
Well this is about day 4 of learning to play the piano.
I have been learning a song that is set to 81 beats pm. and sounds normal and good. I make mistakes about every
3 measures , no problem I'm learning. So I started to play with the timing some. stepped it up to 91 bpm and less mistakes.
Kicked it up to 120 bpm and no mistakes none, now mind you the song doesn't sound right but my fingers work fine to
160 bpm. Thats my breaking point, there I'm a total screw up. Back it back down to 100 no mistakes, back to 81 I start
making mistakes every 3 measures.

What am I doing that would cause this. I thought the slower you play the less mistakes and then build up speed.
but I make more mistakes at slower speeds.
Should I keep at the slower speeds? until I don't make them, or should I speed them up and play without mistakes.
I want to do this right and at the same time have fun. But most of all I don't want to get into bad habits.
Thanks again for your time.
Ron

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Re: Beat time Vrs. mistakes question

Post by Thomandy on Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:09 am

When you play faster you dont get that same time to think in between, and that is why you make the mistakes at 81 and not at 100+. Thats my theory on it. But I dont think you should speed up!!

If you do mistakes at 81 I actually think you are doing it to fast. I think you should get it correct Without a metronome before practicing it with one!! Smile Stop the metronome, and play so slow that EVERY note it correct. If you make a mistake, play it even slower. And play everything that same slowness not got dadadadada then da da da dada.

But: da da da da da da da da

When you do it correct in a solid tempo, then turn on the metronome at a low BPM feks 81, if you then get it wrong, turn down the Metronome and build your way up.

You got to practice the piece as it should be played, not dubble the speed. Then you will get good at playing it fast, and not slow! Smile

Hope it helps. I am a big beliver in slowpractice.

I read somewhere that the major mistake most pianists, also Great known ones, are that they try to play pieces to fast, therfor making to many mistakes in the learningfase which learns the brain to not keep it clean from errors And making the learning tak a lot longer than it should!

So slow slow - then build up to correct tempo.

The reason you gt som problems at slow paste is cause the acusarity must be much better since there is so much time in between beats and notes.

What is easyest?
Counting secunds or minutes without having a clock?? Smile

My acusarity is more acurate on secunds even though im pretty good at minutes to. If you havent tried, try for fun sometime Smile

Ps: Not alowed to count the secunds if you try to get to a minute, then you really are just counting secunds Smile hehe
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Post by Maddogron on Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:30 am

AHHHH
Counting secounds or minutes That hits home Very Happy
Very understandable.
I thought I was looseing my mind, not really thinking about it I guess.
Again its always nice to get an opinion from someone that makes sence.
Thanks again for your time.
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Post by Thomandy on Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:35 am

Maddogron wrote:AHHHH
Counting secounds or minutes That hits home Very Happy
Very understandable.
I thought I was looseing my mind, not really thinking about it I guess.
Again its always nice to get an opinion from someone that makes sence.
Thanks again for your time.
Ron

No problem Smile
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Post by VictorCS on Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:06 pm

If you make mistakes on 80 beats it means that your brain hasnt developed all the muscle memory paths it need to completely know the song. ( thomandy did explain about this )
When you play faster you brain will remember the patterns you've practiced and play it right, but in the end after a while not looking at the
sheet this "holes" will get bigger until you cant play the song perfect anymore.

Lets say you drive on a road, it has a few holes, but if you drive fast enough the car will manage to fly over the hole.
But if you drive slow the wheel will get stuck in the hole.

It's better to fix the holes in the road, than forget about them, because one day they will back fire. So practice the song at 80 whatever beats per second,
til you've got it right, playin at 120bpm then, will be much safer, you dont have to worry about holes anymore...
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