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Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by Christian on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:01 pm

Im having a hard time with these.

If its a tie from a *C* to a *C*. Do I hold it? Or press it twice?

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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by strokemymouse on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:24 pm

You hold it Smile (I hope i'm right...)

If there is a tie from lets say, "C" to an "E" you would play it softly. If the tie is connecting two notes that are the same you hold it.
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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by Thomandy on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:30 pm

strokemymouse wrote:You hold it Smile (I hope i'm right...)

If there is a tie from lets say, "C" to an "E" you would play it softly. If the tie is connecting two notes that are the same you hold it.

Not completly correct im afraid!!! Smile

There are something called a tie. That is ONLY for the same key. c-c or e-e or g-g..... The tie is seen as a perfect line and you should learn to recognize it. Cause there is something that is simular to the tie, and its here you are a bit wrong Stroke.. Cause this other one is not a tie at all. It sometimes move across only 2 notes but also over several notes. That line means that you should play all the notes it strike as: LEGATO... not jumpy but smooth from one note to another. Like you should not lift your hands in between stiking a note. And it got nothing to do with playing them soft or hard. Thats what pp and ff is for. Smile
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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by strokemymouse on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:33 pm

Thomandy wrote:
strokemymouse wrote:You hold it Smile (I hope i'm right...)

If there is a tie from lets say, "C" to an "E" you would play it softly. If the tie is connecting two notes that are the same you hold it.

Not completly correct im afraid!!! Smile

There are something called a tie. That is ONLY for the same key. c-c or e-e or g-g..... The tie is seen as a perfect line and you should learn to recognize it. Cause there is something that is simular to the tie, and its here you are a bit wrong Stroke.. Cause this other one is not a tie at all. It sometimes move across only 2 notes but also over several notes. That line means that you should play all the notes it strike as: LEGATO... not jumpy but smooth from one note to another. Like you should not lift your hands in between stiking a note. And it got nothing to do with playing them soft or hard. Thats what pp and ff is for. Smile

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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by Thomandy on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:37 pm

strokemymouse wrote:
Thomandy wrote:
strokemymouse wrote:You hold it Smile (I hope i'm right...)

If there is a tie from lets say, "C" to an "E" you would play it softly. If the tie is connecting two notes that are the same you hold it.

Not completly correct im afraid!!! Smile

There are something called a tie. That is ONLY for the same key. c-c or e-e or g-g..... The tie is seen as a perfect line and you should learn to recognize it. Cause there is something that is simular to the tie, and its here you are a bit wrong Stroke.. Cause this other one is not a tie at all. It sometimes move across only 2 notes but also over several notes. That line means that you should play all the notes it strike as: LEGATO... not jumpy but smooth from one note to another. Like you should not lift your hands in between stiking a note. And it got nothing to do with playing them soft or hard. Thats what pp and ff is for. Smile

I knew that Rolling Eyes

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Is it only me who cant see the Smile smiley...?

Knew what?

I can see smilies! Smile
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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by strokemymouse on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:39 pm

When i said soft, i meant smooth Smile

must be my pc acting up...
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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by Thomandy on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:41 pm

strokemymouse wrote:When i said soft, i meant smooth Smile

must be my pc acting up...

Okay Smile
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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by Christian on Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:02 pm

I guess that helps. Im gonna hold it.

Now go look in the rythm section. I need help there too. Very Happy

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ties between whole notes

Post by Lorenna on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:21 pm

I've sometimes seen ties going from one whole note to another in the next bar and then even to another one. What is the point in holding a note for such a long time if you can't even hear the sound anymore?
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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by pianochris on Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:23 am

Thomandy wrote:
strokemymouse wrote:You hold it Smile (I hope i'm right...)

If there is a tie from lets say, "C" to an "E" you would play it softly. If the tie is connecting two notes that are the same you hold it.

Not completly correct im afraid!!! Smile

There are something called a tie. That is ONLY for the same key. c-c or e-e or g-g..... The tie is seen as a perfect line and you should learn to recognize it. Cause there is something that is simular to the tie, and its here you are a bit wrong Stroke.. Cause this other one is not a tie at all. It sometimes move across only 2 notes but also over several notes. That line means that you should play all the notes it strike as: LEGATO... not jumpy but smooth from one note to another. Like you should not lift your hands in between stiking a note. And it got nothing to do with playing them soft or hard. Thats what pp and ff is for. Smile

This type of writing is seen very strongly in Schubert's piano works and many of the romantic piano pieces. Commonly, Schubert would write the same or different notes with a tie plus staccato, the overall performance sounding legato, with the sustain pedal, almost dreamy in sound. His Impromptu's, specifically 899, use this a lot.

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Re: Slur, arcs and ties.

Post by pianochris on Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:25 am

Lorenna wrote:I've sometimes seen ties going from one whole note to another in the next bar and then even to another one. What is the point in holding a note for such a long time if you can't even hear the sound anymore?

But you should be able to hear the note, continuously. Often the use of pedals may help the performer achieve the required and necessary length.

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