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Post by nescentes on Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:02 pm

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Post by Kelly on Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:17 pm

VictorCS wrote: Pentatonic C minor blues: C,E#,F,F#,G,A#

As to what I remember that would be actually: C - Eb - F - F# - G - Bb - C

'Cause E# and F are the same key.
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Post by Rickard on Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:52 am

Kelly wrote:
VictorCS wrote: Pentatonic C minor blues: C,E#,F,F#,G,A#

As to what I remember that would be actually: C - Eb - F - F# - G - Bb - C

'Cause E# and F are the same key.
Exactly. A good way to remember that Andrew told in a video is:
-3rd, +2nd, -2nd, -2nd, -3rd, +2nd, in other words you begin with -3rd and +2nd and end the same way (-3rd and +2nd) and there are two -2nd in the middle. So C Blues Scale is: C, Eb, F, F#, G, Bb and C (the first -2nd is actually an augmented 1st).
The minor pentatonic scale is almost the same, it's: -3rd, +2nd, +2nd, -3rd, +2nd so it's: C, Eb, F, G, Bb, C. In other words you avoid the Supertonic and SubDominant in a natural minor scale (or 2nd and 4th notes of the natural minor scale).


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Post by Kelly on Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:45 pm

Rickard wrote:A good way to remember that Andrew told in a video is:
-3rd, +2nd, -2nd, -2nd, -3rd, -2nd, in other words you begin with -3rd and +2nd and end the same way (-3rd and +2nd) and there are two -2nd in the middle. So C Blues Scale is: C, Eb, F, F#, G, Bb and C (the first -2nd is actually an augmented 1st).

Ok, you got a little mixed up there, it ends with a major 2nd - 'cause you're going from Bb to a C natural.


Rickard wrote:The minor pentatonic scale is almost the same, it's: -3rd, +2nd, +2nd, -3rd, +2nd so it's: C, Eb, F, G, Bb, C. In other words you avoid the Supertonic and SubDominant in a natural minor scale (or 2nd and 4th notes of the natural minor scale).

You're only avoiding the subdominant F#/Gb which is the diminished 5th of the C major scale.
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Post by Rickard on Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:56 pm

Kelly wrote:
Rickard wrote:A good way to remember that Andrew told in a video is:
-3rd, +2nd, -2nd, -2nd, -3rd, -2nd, in other words you begin with -3rd and +2nd and end the same way (-3rd and +2nd) and there are two -2nd in the middle. So C Blues Scale is: C, Eb, F, F#, G, Bb and C (the first -2nd is actually an augmented 1st).

Ok, you got a little mixed up there, it ends with a major 2nd - 'cause you're going from Bb to a C natural.


Rickard wrote:The minor pentatonic scale is almost the same, it's: -3rd, +2nd, +2nd, -3rd, +2nd so it's: C, Eb, F, G, Bb, C. In other words you avoid the Supertonic and SubDominant in a natural minor scale (or 2nd and 4th notes of the natural minor scale).

You're only avoiding the subdominant F#/Gb which is the diminished 5th of the C major scale.
Yeah it's supposed to be a major 2nd there. But you are avoiding the supertonic since you go a minor 3rd from the tonic. The supertonic is a major 2nd from the tonic. It's tonic, supertonic, mediant, subdominant, dominant, submediant and leading note/leading tone.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Post by Kelly on Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:09 pm

Rickard wrote:But you are avoiding the supertonic since you go a minor 3rd from the tonic.

The minor third from the tonic is Eb. And you're avoiding the Gb, not the Eb.

Rickard wrote:The supertonic is a major 2nd from the tonic.

Correct. But the major 2nd from the tonic is D.

Rickard wrote:It's tonic, supertonic, mediant, subdominant, dominant, submediant and leading note/leading tone.

C minor pentatonic scale: C - Eb - F - G - Bb - C

C Blues scale: C - Eb - F - Gb - G - Bb - C

Gb is the diminished 5th measured from the tonic scale, which in this case is C, that note is what separates a pent. minor C from the blues scale. Also, the fourth note of the scale. In the order you mentioned the scale degrees the fourth note would be a sub-dominant, not a super-tonic, 'cause you're not avoiding the 2nd note of the scale.

At least that's how I see it.
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Post by Rickard on Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:18 am

Ok I'm pretty confused now. Well, I know how the minor pentatonic scales and blues scales are built so that's what matters. The second note in a C scale is D and you are not playing that in a C Minor Pentatonic Scale or C Blues Scale. Well, maybe I need to re-check Andrew's music theory lessons about the minor pentatonic scale and blues scales.

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Post by Kelly on Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:33 pm

Aww, sorry. I might not be the best at explaining, but I've seen Andrew's videos enough times to have learnt his theories sharply, unless I'm misunderstanding something.
Well, good luck on that though. (:
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