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Post by Dalirus on Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:42 am

Is this the right place for this?

My professor wants me to learn chord progressions (I, V7, IV, I, etc.) chromatically. Problem is remembering all those sharps/flats. Evil or Very Mad I actually did them for her last semester but now they're just gone from my head and long forgotten. Of course there's no problem remembering the keys in which I know the scales of...but C#, D#, Eb, and so on...

So for Andrew or anybody...is there like a pattern or an easier to way to remember them? (For major and maybe minor keys too) And yes, I do have that circle of fifths cheat sheet in my folder. It's just hate to keep looking at it. Mad

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Post by Admin Andrew on Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:45 am

Dalirus wrote:Is this the right place for this?

My professor wants me to learn chord progressions (I, V7, IV, I, etc.) chromatically. Problem is remembering all those sharps/flats. Evil or Very Mad I actually did them for her last semester but now they're just gone from my head and long forgotten. Of course there's no problem remembering the keys in which I know the scales of...but C#, D#, Eb, and so on...

So for Andrew or anybody...is there like a pattern or an easier to way to remember them? (For major and maybe minor keys too) And yes, I do have that circle of fifths cheat sheet in my folder. It's just hate to keep looking at it. Mad

My advice to you is ^_^ remember "Father Charles Goes Down And Ends Battle" And remember it backwards as well Wink

Then after memorize your circle of fifths completely! So well you don't need to look at the paper anymore, AND while you're doing that, start playing all those different scales on the piano to further help you memorize it! Very Happy After all that, you should know it pretty well! I know it seems like a lot of work, but anything worth anything in life takes some work.

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Post by Dalirus on Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:58 pm

Would it be more productive, say I work on major scales today, minor scales tomorrow, major flats the next day, and so on...instead of trying to learn them all at once and make your brains explode?

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Post by Admin Andrew on Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:27 pm

Dalirus wrote:Would it be more productive, say I work on major scales today, minor scales tomorrow, major flats the next day, and so on...instead of trying to learn them all at once and make your brains explode?

You'd think so, I actually used to think that was the best way. But, if you only do majors then it's like trying to do much of one thing. By the time you come BACK to majors you've most likely forgotten them already. So it's best to do a small amount of everything, that way nothing gets left out, PLUS you're not doing the same motion over and over again. It's a more balanced approach ^_^

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Post by Dalirus on Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:31 pm

That actually makes perfect sense. No wonder I can't do A major scales fast lately because lately I've been concentrating on harmonic minor scales. Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Admin Andrew on Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:33 pm

Dalirus wrote:That actually makes perfect sense. No wonder I can't do A major scales fast lately because lately I've been concentrating on harmonic minor scales. Evil or Very Mad
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cheers NOW you're getting it ^_^

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Re: Remembering Sharps and Flats

Post by Phobik2000 on Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:59 pm

I've been reading a berklee theory on harmony and i'm confused. I had the idea that a flat or sharp only affects the note where it shows, and that's also what is said, but then why is it also said that these need to be canceled so the note returns to the unaltered condition?
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Re: Remembering Sharps and Flats

Post by maggiekedves on Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:18 am

phobik2000 wrote:I've been reading a berklee theory on harmony and i'm confused. I had the idea that a flat or sharp only affects the note where it shows, and that's also what is said, but then why is it also said that these need to be canceled so the note returns to the unaltered condition?

There are two way notes can be effected. One is with key signature and the other with direct accidental signs like flat, sharp and natural.
I am sure the theory book mention the natural sign. In case that appear the notes return to their unaltered version in case of the key signatures.

There is one more thing worth mentioning. If your are in lets say G major (#) and you see a # sign in front of a C then that C is altered to C#. If there is an other C in the same measure but you dont see a # or natural sign in front it still means that C will be altered by #.
Anywhere else in the piece the other C or other notes are not changed and only obey the key signature.

I hope I answered your question ( and I hope I was understandable)
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Post by Admin Andrew on Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:14 pm

Maggies right:) she answered this question for me! thanks!

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Re: Remembering Sharps and Flats

Post by maggiekedves on Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:54 am

Admin Andrew wrote:Maggies right:) she answered this question for me! thanks!

Thanks for the confirmation Smile It is always nice to hear Im right afro
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Post by Phobik2000 on Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:39 am

I read that also. I wasn't aware of that "continuous" effect for the measure. And I find it quite strange tbh. Damn classic-non-illogicals Evil or Very Mad

Btw, how about those intangible scale designations? C major is C or Cmaj, but minor is C-, but -7 is dminished? WTH? It's crazy (note sure I got it right, but you should know what I mean!) Shocked
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Re: Remembering Sharps and Flats

Post by maggiekedves on Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:16 am

Well Im sure Andrew know what you meant... I am not good on those special scales and chords... confused ( yet - hopefully Smile )
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