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Post by Phi on Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:09 pm

After weeks of trying, I've decided to ask for help!!

For almost 3 weeks now, I've been trying to record a performance of myself playing -but I keep striking wrong notes.
But I play perfectly [at least, note-perfect] when the camera's off.

Has anyone had a similar experience, if so, how did you overcome it??

Edit: I deliberately posted on this board -as I intend to post videos of my performances in this thread.


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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by pianohama on Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:26 pm

just keep practising until ur totally comfortable playing it Smile
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Admin Andrew on Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:24 pm

when you're recording try not to care what the people think who are watching you. Think of how you can express the perfect music from within yourself.

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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by VictorCS on Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:54 pm

You'll actually have to forget that you're recording, just try to merge with the song.... I have the same problem, and I want it perfect to... If I hit a wrong key, I start at the beginning again.
That's kinda stupid if it's a long song, but for know I've only recorded short songs, but when I'm gonna record some of the 3+ minutes songs I'll just have to accept a wrong key ^_^
It's not easy to forget that you're recording, but try forget that you are, and if you do a major error just start at the beginning again.

And, remember, never record it because of us, but because of you, that way you will do better... If you want to make a good recording, you can do it. So go inside the bubble Andrew is talking about, and play the song.... Think of you, the piano and the song as one, and forget us that gonna see the recording ^_^

WARNING: Easier said than done...
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:36 pm

Thanks a lot for your suggestions!
They've really been useful.

I actually hit the LAST note wrong once -and had to start all over again!!
I've given up for today...

If I don't gain anything else from all this, I've definitely learnt to appreciate everyone else's videos!!

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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Thomandy on Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:18 pm

Phi wrote:Thanks a lot for your suggestions!
They've really been useful.

I actually hit the LAST note wrong once -and had to start all over again!!
I've given up for today...

If I don't gain anything else from all this, I've definitely learnt to appreciate everyone else's videos!!

It is GREAT practice to record and do mistakes! And when you dont get it as good as you want to, it probably isnt weel enough learned yet either! The more secure you are, the easyer it is! Smile And with all that recorded practice you get, the more secure you will be and the chances are greater every time that you will get it perfect!" And then your performance for others will also be alot better Wink Good Luck! Smile It gets easyer after a while, dont give up Smile
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:01 pm

I couldn't get any piece perfectly, so I decided to try some improvisation.

Several times, I literally didn't know what to play next.

Yeah, and there are LOTS of mistakes.



EDIT: I've just realised that the whole point of improvisation is NOT knowing what to play next, and making it up as you go... so the second line in this post is inconsequential.


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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by pianohama on Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:40 pm

Phi wrote:I couldn't get any piece perfectly, so I decided to try some improvisation.

Several times, I literally didn't know what to play next.

Yeah, and there are LOTS of mistakes.



Awesome man Smile You got some skills in improvising! I like it ! and i loved the sound of ur piano ^^! Some interesting modulation u did there aswell Smile
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Thomandy on Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:09 pm

Phi wrote:I couldn't get any piece perfectly, so I decided to try some improvisation.

Several times, I literally didn't know what to play next.

Yeah, and there are LOTS of mistakes.


Wow, is that a improv?? wow Smile
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:20 pm

pianohama wrote:
Phi wrote:I couldn't get any piece perfectly, so I decided to try some improvisation.

Several times, I literally didn't know what to play next.

Yeah, and there are LOTS of mistakes.



Awesome man Smile You got some skills in improvising! I like it ! and i loved the sound of ur piano ^^! Some interesting modulation u did there aswell Smile

Thanks a lot. Glad you liked it.
I had to record straight from the line-out on the keyboard. Hence the wire at the top of the picture...

Couldn't think of a better way to modulate up one semitone
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:22 pm

thomandy wrote:
Phi wrote:I couldn't get any piece perfectly, so I decided to try some improvisation.

Several times, I literally didn't know what to play next.

Yeah, and there are LOTS of mistakes.


Wow, is that a improv?? wow Smile

Thanks for your "wows"... hehe.
Maybe now, I'll be able to record what I've been trying to.

EDIT: Thanks for your comment on youtube too.


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Post by Admin Andrew on Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:21 pm

Wow! that's VERY good! I'm impressed! I can hardly believe that's an improv. Is it really? Are you just playing us all for fools? haha Smile No, i believe you. But wow!

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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:19 pm

Admin Andrew wrote:Wow! that's VERY good! I'm impressed! I can hardly believe that's an improv. Is it really? Are you just playing us all for fools? haha Smile No, i believe you. But wow!

Thanks.
It actually IS an improv. Glad you're impressed!! Very Happy

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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:30 pm

I've managed to make another recording without glaring mistakes... Very Happy



I was so intent on getting the notes right that I might have skimped the dynamics in some parts.
Tell me what you think.

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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Thomandy on Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:01 pm

Titelsuggestion Wink : Phi's Performances ... hehe


I really liked it Smile Calm, and sweet and very nicely played Very Happy:D
Keep em comming Wink
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:22 pm

thomandy wrote:Titelsuggestion Wink : Phi's Performances ... hehe


I really liked it Smile Calm, and sweet and very nicely played Very Happy:D
Keep em comming Wink

Suggestion taken. Smile
Thanks.

Glad you liked it Very Happy

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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phobik2000 on Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:23 am

Great music.
Btw, out of curiosity, your profile says you play piano since feb 08, but your hands seem to display, I'd say, a fine amount of discipline/years of practice? Just a wild guess, Andrew can probably tell better then me geek
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:48 am

Phobik2000 wrote:Great music.
Btw, out of curiosity, your profile says you play piano since feb 08, but your hands seem to display, I'd say, a fine amount of discipline/years of practice? Just a wild guess, Andrew can probably tell better then me geek

Hehe... that as a HUGE complement. Very Happy

I actually started in February but I believe several factors must have made you say that:
-I played the bass guitar with several keyboardists and picked up a fairly good understanding of chords over the years.
-My left hand is my stronger hand... dunno if thats of any help Smile
-I don't even want to go into my practice time.

Anyway, that's probably the best complement I've received about my playing. Very Happy
Thanks
I'll like to hear what Andrew thinks... geek

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Post by Phobik2000 on Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:18 am

Phi wrote:
Phobik2000 wrote:Great music.
Btw, out of curiosity, your profile says you play piano since feb 08, but your hands seem to display, I'd say, a fine amount of discipline/years of practice? Just a wild guess, Andrew can probably tell better then me geek

Hehe... that as a HUGE complement. Very Happy

I actually started in February but I believe several factors must have made you say that:
-I played the bass guitar with several keyboardists and picked up a fairly good understanding of chords over the years.
-My left hand is my stronger hand... dunno if thats of any help Smile
-I don't even want to go into my practice time.

Anyway, that's probably the best complement I've received about my playing. Very Happy
Thanks
I'll like to hear what Andrew thinks... geek

Bass, I see, that must have given your left hand (the one directly in from the camera) a fair amount of technique, even though it would be different from the piano, I'm sure it helps. Wink
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Re: Phi's Performances.

Post by Phi on Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:31 am

Phobik2000 wrote:
Phi wrote:
Phobik2000 wrote:Great music.
Btw, out of curiosity, your profile says you play piano since feb 08, but your hands seem to display, I'd say, a fine amount of discipline/years of practice? Just a wild guess, Andrew can probably tell better then me geek

Hehe... that as a HUGE complement. Very Happy

I actually started in February but I believe several factors must have made you say that:
-I played the bass guitar with several keyboardists and picked up a fairly good understanding of chords over the years.
-My left hand is my stronger hand... dunno if thats of any help Smile
-I don't even want to go into my practice time.

Anyway, that's probably the best complement I've received about my playing. Very Happy
Thanks
I'll like to hear what Andrew thinks... geek

Bass, I see, that must have given your left hand (the one directly in from the camera) a fair amount of technique, even though it would be different from the piano, I'm sure it helps. Wink
Being able to play another instrument has helped in my piano learning [ESPECIALLY with scales] but their techniques are so different it never occurred to me that it could help in my playing afro
That's interesting...
Maybe, being good at piano could make me a better guitarist!!
YAY!! killing two birds with one stone alien

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Post by Phobik2000 on Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:12 pm

I've actually read (should have a book somewhere) about many professional guitar and bass players having studied/played the piano, especially in the blues/jazz territory.

The theory is the same, and the piano's chromatic scale allows for an easier visualisation that can be aplied to most (all?) instruments.

For me, it's not about learning the piano itself, but music in general, in a friendly UI Wink
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Post by Phi on Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:55 pm

Phobik2000 wrote:
For me, it's not about learning the piano itself, but music in general, in a friendly UI Wink

I actually lol'd on reading that!!
I've got a lecturer who ALWAYS says UI... and it was funny seeing that used here.

Music is a language with several dialects [dunno if that's been said before, but I made it up just now Very Happy] knowing how to speak the language should be more satisfying than knowing just a particular dialect. Wink

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Post by Phobik2000 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:28 am

Phi wrote:
Phobik2000 wrote:
For me, it's not about learning the piano itself, but music in general, in a friendly UI Wink

I actually lol'd on reading that!!
I've got a lecturer who ALWAYS says UI... and it was funny seeing that used here.

Music is a language with several dialects [dunno if that's been said before, but I made it up just now Very Happy] knowing how to speak the language should be more satisfying than knowing just a particular dialect. Wink

Indeed. Smile

I was just watching this, and wondered how a piano rendition would be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSMXMv0noY4

EDIT: actually it would be like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZK4Hd28VA
lol
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Post by Phi on Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:08 am

Very nice !!

That's one of the very FEW metallica songs I like.
The piano rendition was really nice.
Thanks for sharing that!

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Post by Phobik2000 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:19 am

Phi wrote:Very nice !!

That's one of the very FEW metallica songs I like.
The piano rendition was really nice.
Thanks for sharing that!

Y/W. Smile

But I'm sure there are a few more "classic" tunes from them, worth detaching from the confined metal world.
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